Joanne98
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Thu Sep-04-08 08:24 AM
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It's another culture war election! |
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They couldn't win on the issues so they hired a culture war expert to throw red meat to the God, guns, gays and bitter communities. They will be dropping red meat on mostly the swing states, in the rural areas.
I said this a few days ago...EXPECT MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD!
I actually work with rednecks and they are pretty good people. But they are very susceptible to this kind of rhetoric. I'm from California but have lived in Ohio for 12 years, so I'm an outsider. I love Ohio. I got really sick of LA. Crowded, lines, high cost of everything, traffic. Ever since I moved here, I get asked, "Why would you leave California". Most people around here imagine that everywhere else is so great. It's a 'grass is always greener on the other side" thing. I lived in LA County for 20 years and went to Hollywood once. I never even watched tv until I was 40. None of this makes sense to rural America.
I think a lot about the potential for my area from an outsiders point of view. There's so much that could be done but it seems that the community leaders stand in the way of development. I think it's the culture wars.
I hope they don't fall for this but I think they will. They will see Sarah as fighting back for them. It's an inferiority complex that people like Karl Rove have nurtured. What Palin did last night was open the wound and rub salt in it.
I've thought about this for a long time and came to the conclusion that somebody just needs to be straight with these people. The factory where I worked layed everybody off. We can't take the culture wars anymore. It's really bad for business. My aunt owns a store in a small town near her and the whole area is drying up. She's had to declare bankruptcy. She depends on tourism. How can you get tourists to come when you have the locals threatening to shoot everybody with Bibles in their hands? It's sad. So much potential. But these populations are getting told everyday by the right that's everybody hates them. It's really an evil thing to do to them. Just so they can hold political power by guarding these populations and keeping them isolated.
Sarah Palin is the last thing they need. She doesn't give a damn about them. I think it's time to take the local business leaders aside and say, "We can't help you until you get rid of the culture wars". I'm sick of it. Grab the preachers and say "this game it over"..
This recession is really going to hurt small towns and they can't afford 4 more years of Bush economic policies. They know that but now they've been distracted again.
As far as Palin's speech last night. Nasty, spiteful, mean.. I don't feel like taking this crap anymore. Blame the media, the same old script. It's not the media's fault she wasn't vetted. I hope they fight back, but I'm not holding my breath.
All I know is my area can't afford anymore of the Bush economy. The guns and God crowd needs to be told straight to their faces that this culture war is just a distraction. A lie and they are the ones who pay the price for believing these liars.
Palin is a liar and a sleazy opportunist. She is the last thing rural America needs.
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:26 AM
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1. Get it right! It's not VOTER fraud you are referring to here... |
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That is the republic meme. You are referring to election fraud, or tampering. Voter fraud is a fake voter, dead voter or double voter. The republics push this to get voter ID laws passed and to cage voters out of the polls.
-Hoot
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Joanne98
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:40 AM
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3. It will be both. Old fashion voter fraud like ID checks at the polls. |
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Ballot stealing... And Diebold in Ohio. we still haven't gotten that straighten out. Voting in the basements of churches. Stupid. Should have been moved to union halls or the public schools.
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:30 AM
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2. I can't believe people are dumb enough to get suckered in. |
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to the culture war.
Maybe they will realize that gays and guns weren't really that important when their jobs are sent overseas and they get foreclosed on.
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:41 AM
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4. I know but it's peer pressure too. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 09:48 AM by Joanne98
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:44 AM
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5. The "culture war" is completely bogus |
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Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 09:45 AM by slackmaster
In order to retain power, established interests must systematically reduce every political decision to a binary choice. You are with us, or you are against us. You are white, or you are some other color. You favor "abortion on demand", or you think all abortion is murder.
The guns and God crowd needs to be told straight to their faces that this culture war is just a distraction. A lie and they are the ones who pay the price for believing these liars.
You are very close to perfection here. Both extremes of the "culture war" see the other extreme as a threat to our precious way of life. Both extremes insist that each individual take one side or the other. Both extremes use the same kind of language to denigrate the other. Neither recognizes the vast undistributed middle, millions of thoughtful people with balanced views and thoughtful, nuanced positions. Both extremes are intolerant of the other extreme, but refuse to recognize those of us who don't believe we have to buy into one big package deal or the other.
I hope I live long enough to see a real Presidential race between two or more individuals who are not tied to some kind of artificial ideology.
Thanks Joanne. K&R.
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:49 AM
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6. It's holding populations hostage. Pure and simple. |
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Thu Sep-04-08 09:52 AM
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7. That's why Obama/Biden need to hit them on their record. |
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They need to drive it home. If the party that says it's for "change you can believe in" was so capable then why do we need change at all? They've applauded and rubber stamped everything Bush has done for the last 8 years and they were in power for even longer than that. So how much more of their type of change can we stand.
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