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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:34 AM
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FBI Wanted Obama Plotters Charged, But A Rove Appointee Said No
We noticed last week that it was awfully peculiar that Colorado’s U.S. Attorney, Troy Eid, had so airily dismissed conspiracy charges against the three white-supremacist tweakers who were caught planning to assassinate Barack Obama at last week’s Democratic National Convention in Denver.

Now it turns out that those suspicions were fully warranted:

KUSA - 9Wants to Know has learned three men in Denver planned to assassinate U.S. Senator Barack Obama during the Democratic National Convention in Denver by sneaking into one of his events and shooting him with a gun hidden inside of a camera, according to federal court records.

Nathan Johnson's girlfriend, whom 9NEWS is not naming because she's a juvenile, said it would have to be a suicide mission.

The plot is similar to that in the 1992 movie "The Bodyguard" starring actors Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston. In the movie, Costner stops an assassination attempt against Houston by spotting a weapon hidden inside a gutted-out TV camera.

Johnson, Shawn Adolf and Tharin Gartrell all thought that Obama had a suite in the third floor of the Hyatt hotel, where they were staying. In fact, the Senator was staying in another Denver Hotel.

The men were doing methamphetamine inside the hotel with two women on Aug. 23 discussing the plot to kill Obama, according to federal records.

Adolf said "it would not matter if he killed Senator Obama because police would simply add a murder charge to his pending charges," according to the records. There were seven outstanding warrants for Adolf's arrest.

The underage woman told law enforcement that Adolf also talked about using "a high-powered rifle 22-250 from a high vantage point" to shoot Senator Obama during his acceptance speech at INVESCO Field at Mile High during the DNC.


Even more significant, beyond the details of the plot, was the fact that, as the Colorado Independent notes, the FBI asked for more serious charges to be filed and were turned down.

When police searched the hotel rooms and cars the men were using, they confiscated meth, needles, laptops, cell phones, a black mask, books indicating check fraud and forgery, bags of new clothes, tactical pants and bar coupons.

Based on the evidence, FBI special agent Robert Sawyer believed there was probable cause to charge the men with conspiracy to kill Senator Obama. However, US Attorney Troy Eid last week said there is insufficient evidence to indicate a true threat, plot or conspiracy against the senator.


Note the language used by Eid in dismissing the gravity of the case: the case isn't serious because they were "more aspirational, perhaps, than operational"? Well, when it was the Liberty Seven -- black Muslim men who were described by the FBI as "aspirational rather than operational" -- there was no hesitation by the Justice Department in bringing charges.

Another funny thing: When a black man in prison sent a threatening letter containing baby powder to John McCain, Troy Eid brought down the full force of the law, complete with press conferences and public declarations that "We won't stand for threats of this kind in Colorado."

But when it’s a claque of white men with rifles, disguises, and all the accoutrement of a conspiracy – as well as open admissions to it – Troy Eid isn’t worried. After all, they just a bunch of harmless, tweakers, right? … Just like little Timmy McVeigh.

But then, when you’re a Karl Rove operative promoted to deliver justice the Republican way, as Troy Eid is, that’s the way the scales fall. As Marcy reported at the time, Eid in fact nearly didn't get the Colorado job because of concerns about "improper lobbying."

His failure to take this matter seriously is itself a serious matter. When law-enforcement officials let this stuff slip by, they send a dangerous message to other would-be plotters out there. And next time, they may in fact be more competent.

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/09/fbi-wanted-obama-plotters-charged-but.html
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:44 AM
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1. Makes ya think huh??
Another funny thing: When a black man in prison sent a threatening letter containing baby powder to John McCain, Troy Eid brought down the full force of the law, complete with press conferences and public declarations that "We won't stand for threats of this kind in Colorado."


Thanks Monica Goodling. This is the kind of government we get under Republicans.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:46 AM
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2. With liberty and justice for all.
KKKarl never took his Pledge or the Constitution very seriously. And now he is promoting a vice president with ties to an anti-America group.

Was this a message to Obama? They were never going to be arrested? Just deliver a message?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:54 AM
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3. I'm livid and damn near speechless.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 10:55 AM by Beam Me Up
What if these yokels were patsies being set up to take the fall for a real assassination? Not like we haven't seen that before. Better nip any further investigation in the bud, fast.

edit typo
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:34 AM
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5. so, RNC protesters have been charged with "terrorism" and these guys walk
i'll join you in livitude.


Source: Twin Cities Indy Media

In what appears to be the first use of criminal charges under the 2002 Minnesota version of the Federal Patriot Act, Ramsey County Prosecutors have formally charged 8 alleged leaders of the RNC Welcoming Committee with Conspiracy to Riot in Furtherance of Terrorism. Monica Bicking, Eryn Trimmer, Luce Guillen Givins, Erik Oseland, Nathanael Secor, Robert Czernik, Garrett Fitzgerald, and Max Spector, face up to 7 1/2 years in prison under the terrorism enhancement charge which allows for a 50% increase in the maximum penalty.

Affidavits released by law enforcement which were filed in support of the search warrants used in raids over the weekend, and used to support probable cause for the arrest warrants, are based on paid, confidential informants who infiltrated the RNCWC on behalf of law enforcement. They allege that members of the group sought to kidnap delegates to the RNC, assault police officers with firebombs and explosives, and sabotage airports in St. Paul. Evidence released to date does not corroborate these allegations with physical evidence or provide any other evidence for these allegations than the claims of the informants. Based on past abuses of such informants by law enforcement, the National Lawyers Guild is concerned that such police informants have incentives to lie and exaggerate threats of violence and to also act as provacateurs in raising and urging support for acts of violence.

"These charges are an effort to equate publicly stated plans to blockade traffic and disrupt the RNC as being the same as acts of terrorism. This both trivializes real violence and attempts to place the stated political views of the Defendants on trial," said Bruce Nestor, President of the Minnesota Chapter of the National Lawyers Guild. "The charges represent an abuse of the criminal justice system and seek to intimidate any person organizing large scale public demonstrations potentially involving civil disobedience, he said."
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:24 PM
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8. Yep. Republican 'JustUS'. n/t
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:14 PM
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7. I shudder in realization, this could be in print... in a future book, by a future Garrison type DA.
Every single thing about this administration stinks to hell and back.

Livid? yep.

Don't care if I'm accused of wearing tin-foil.... I can take anything... I have two teens.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:00 AM
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4. Is this the same FBI that screwed up the anthrax case?
They're a bunch of morons. Lying, incompetent, headline seeking thugs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:19 PM
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11. Completely politicized. We have no real functioning Justice Department. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:20 PM
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12. Dupe.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 01:20 PM by sfexpat2000
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:39 AM
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6. kick
:kick:

I want to eviscerate something....

:nuke:
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:01 PM
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9. This needs the light of many recommendations. EDIT: X Post GDP, link:
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 01:16 PM by Festivito
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:17 PM
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10. The only surprising part of this to me...
is that these nimrods weren't given their weapons back after a stern talking to, and dropped off
in front of the hotel Obama was actually staying at.
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bring_em_home_bush Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:59 PM
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13. make an offhand comment about a burning Bush in a bar, OTOH, and go to prison
'Burning Bush' comment draws prison term
Man plans to appeal
Friday, December 6, 2002 Posted: 2:59 PM EST (1959 GMT)

SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (AP) -- A man who made a remark about a "burning
Bush" during the president's March 2001 trip to Sioux Falls was sentenced
Friday to 37 months in prison.

Richard Humphreys of Portland, Oregon was convicted in September of
threatening to kill or harm the president and said he plans to appeal. He
has said the comment was a prophecy protected under his right to free
speech.

Humphreys said he got into a barroom discussion in nearby Watertown with a
truck driver. A bartender who overheard the conversation realized the
president was to visit Sioux Falls the next day and told police Humphreys
talked about a "burning Bush" and the possibility of someone pouring a
flammable liquid on Bush and lighting it.

"I said God might speak to the world through a burning Bush," Humphreys
testified during his trial. "I had said that before and I thought it was
funny."

http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200212/msg00043.html

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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:32 PM
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14. They aren't even being subtle now.
*sigh*

Troy Eid needs to hang for high treason right alongside Karl Rove. Letting people plotting to kill a Presidential candidate WALK?!
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:41 PM
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15. Colorado District Attorney
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