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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 PM
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Why did Sarah Palin fly all the way back to Alaska to give birth after she started leaking?
...When there were hospitals in Dallas, Texas (where she was giving a speech when her water broke)?

Is this woman not only irresponsible, but a wackjob as well?

On the Thom Hartmann radio program the other day he played audio from an interview of the Chairman of the Alaska Independence Party. This is a radical party that believes Alaska should be its own nation and should break away from the United States.

This "chairman" or whatever he is, made a statement to the effect..."when I die I won't be buried under their (the US) God-damned flag"...among other things.

Sarah Palin, as Governor, addressed this party at a meeting they held and Palins' husband was/is an active member of this group.

Question. Why would a pregnant woman who shares in this belief fly all the way back to Alaska to give birth when there are perfectly good hospitals in Dallas she could have gone to? Could it be that she wanted her baby to be born in Alaska because she wanted her son to be "born in her own country" as it were?

How else to explain the reckless endangerment of getting on a plane after your water breaks, fly from Dallas to Seattle. Get on another plane to fly to Anchorage. Get in a car and drive for a distance to give birth in a hospital in lil' ole Wasilla, Alaska?

Did she really want that baby?


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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:31 PM
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1. as a mother it's not something
i would have done.

did she want that baby? probably not, but she's pro-life.

okay i just realized what you're implying and you might be right.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:31 PM
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2. This is really a sick post...and there's a lot of them around here these days..
...the women's water did not break...she had leakage, and realized she should see a doctor...she was in no imminent danger, so she chose to fly back. end of story.

Try slamming her on her opposition to the right to choose, her pro-drilling in ANWR instead. It's crap like this that will elect John McCain.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:34 PM
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4. You need to be in the hospital if you are leaking until you are not
A six-hour flight was stupid.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:34 PM
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5. No, it's not a sick post,
as it goes to the judgment of this woman. After all, if she's going to be next in line for the Presidency, don't you want to know that your President has excellent judgment in times of stress?

Leakage, even leakage, suggests that something is happening, and, as with water breaking, the risk of infection is huge. That she didn't check right into a Texas hospital tells me all I need to know about her judgment.

It's faulty.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:55 PM
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20. It may not be a sick post, but it is certainly an old and rehashed post.
How about something actually new for a change?
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:57 PM
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23. Ah, well, then that's what you should have said
Calling it "sick" is a whole different thing.

So, go start a new post, honey. Be brave. Be strong. Get out there and do it, and you won't have to anklebite others.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:26 PM
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32. I said it may NOT be sick, but it is old.
That's the way life goes here on the forums--you post and you have to live with differences of opinion. This certainly is not a mutual admiration society here at DU--such is life. Besides, pointing out the obvious is certainly not anklebiting.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:52 PM
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41. Now, you're confused
You think calling something "sick" is "obvious"?

You're confused.

Go on. Get out there and start your own, new, original, creative post.

I know you can do it.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:05 PM
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43. Sorry, I will not get out. I did not call it sick, but as a matter of speaking
I said it may be sick but it is certainly old. I am sorry this is so incomprehensible to you, but nobody here at DU gets to tell anyone else to do anything. Just deal with the fact that in the forums lots of things get said that you do not like. I know you can do it.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:21 PM
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45. No, you're still confused - let me help you
This is what your subject line said:

" This is really a sick post...and there's a lot of them around here these days.."

Now, I can tell you to do anything I please. It's up to you to refuse to do it. And try to be original, please. Derivative may be almost as high a compliment as imitation, but, really, when you do it, it's just sad.

Run along now. Tangerine is finished with you.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:31 PM
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47. Are you really this stupid or can you not read? That was NOT my subject line.
Here is my very first post in this thread, #20:


elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Sep-05-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #5
20. It may not be a sick post, but it is certainly an old and rehashed post.

How about something actually new for a change?


Get your act together and your facts straight before you call somebody out here. I hope you feel sufficiently foolish about this. Pretty high and mighty for someone who has been here for a whole 6 months. I know I am finished with you. What a moran.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:34 PM
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7. This is the inference ....
that I was getting from the information Thom Hartmann was putting out there.

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:39 PM
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10. she probably wasn't in "imminent danger." The kid was
Numerous physicians have questioned this move.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:22 PM
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29. There's no real difference between leaking and breakage.
Ask a doctor. Once there was leakage...that baby was in danger of infection. Sarah Palin chose to give a speech, board a flight, change planes and drive to a little hospital to have the baby. She gave birth 26 hours after she started leaking....needlessly putting the child at risk. She knew she was having a Down Syndrome baby and she knew she was only 7 months pregnant. Why is it sick to bring up her utter disregard for the child's life?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:25 PM
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31. You are wrong...
...if she was leaking, then medically speaking her water broke. The membrane now has a hole in it, and the clock starts ticking towards the risk of infection. Not to mention that, as she tells it, she had started experiencing contractions that were "different" from the earlier ones -- i.e., the birth was imminent.

24 hours. That is how much time is recommended from the time the water breaks -- or starts leaking -- and the time to induce labor, if it has not already commenced on its own.

And this does speak volumes about her judgment. Not to mention the judgment of her doctor, who supposedly told her sure, go ahead and give that speech, the wait to get on a plane for a 10-hour trip with layovers, then drive for another hour so you can get to your home-town hospital.

Personally, my money is on total wackos, the both of them.
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:38 PM
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36. I agree with you. Nasty and crude heading anyway.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:39 PM
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37. Oh right.
Do you think airline would have let her on the plane had they known her amniotic fluid was leaking? By the way, how did she no there was no imminent danger? She spoke with the doctor by phone. I doubt doctors has figured how to do a thorough examination by phone. Then she gets on the plane, while having contractions.
Again, do you think airline would have let her onto the plane had they known she is having contractions?
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:32 PM
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3. Once your water breaks,
you're in great danger of infection. There's not a commercial airline that would have allowed her to board, but she took a private jet all the way back to Alaska? From Texas?

Do you know how fucking FAR that is? It's a long trip.

What do you bet she didn't call her OB before she boarded that private jet?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:34 PM
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6. She was on a private jet? That is news to me. n/t
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:37 PM
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9. Thom Hartmann said she flew on Alaska Airlines...
and they didn't have a policy in place about preventing pregnant women from flying at the time....
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:42 PM
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13. It's always discouraged. I flew with a very pregnant friend on Alaska Airlines
They strongly suggested she not fly.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:36 PM
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8. I didn't think she was on a private jet......
I thought it was Alaskan Airlines....
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:44 PM
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14. That's the first time I saw that.
But, if it were Alaska Airlines, that's even more outrageous. Imagine having a woman in that condition on a flight? Imagine if she'd gone into labor on the flight?

A total disrespect for the wellbeing of the unborn child, of the rules that govern commercial flights, of anything that is decent.

This woman wants what she wants when she wants it.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:47 PM
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15. She sold the private jet on eBay (except she didn't) she made
a profit (except it was sold at a loss). Bay Buchanan says the "profit" was not having to pay to operate the plane. Bay Buchanan can blow me (but only in the dark with me wearing three condoms).
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:56 PM
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22. Truth: She sold the bloody plane for a loss, not on Ebay. To a Republican
contributor. He now flies it for well-heeled hunters to shoot wildlife.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:58 PM
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24. You'd let her?
Whoa.

I would let Bay blow me, but only if I could use your dick.
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:02 PM
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25. speaking of Bay-
did she have a facelift? or just get sarahpalinglasses?

heh heh

back to the topic--

< waving at Tangerine> ;>)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:41 PM
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38. She flew on commercial flight.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:42 PM by lizzy
Airline was not informed that her amniotic fluid was leaking.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:38 PM
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48. She flew

out of Dallas.
Alaska Airlines DOES NOT have a policy of informing the crew about a woman greater than 7 months about the pregnancy and the possibility of an an unscheduled landing. Other airlines do.

It was also not a direct flight. It stopped in Seattle or some place in the northwest.

A very stupid move. We don't need this kind of person as VP.

that is all...

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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:39 PM
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11. She's a wack job alright.
I can tell by her eyes that she's a wack job.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:41 PM
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12. Is she claiming to have been flown privately?
I just can't imagine an airline taking on a pregnant passenger in labor.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:49 PM
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17. Tangerine LaBamba was wrong, but I love her anyway. She
is my favorite unknown person in the entire world.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:44 PM
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39. No. She flew on Alaska airlines.
Airline didn't know about her condition.
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Truth4Justice Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:49 PM
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16. Fundies like Palin do all manner of odd things that make little sense but I suspect you are correct
she wanted the child born in AK not TX. She endagered him so that she could have her way. I am glad I don't work for her. I know her kind: a cast-iron b***h if I ever saw one. I'll bet she never admits to being wrong either.
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ToddRodd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:49 PM
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18. I heard that she realyl didn't want .........
She really didn't want her child to wind up being a Texan. **UGH**
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:53 PM
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19. All I know is that I was in the car driving my wife to the hospital
over bad country roads in the rain for our first baby ... and I am glad I wasn't on that plane with her!
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:56 PM
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21. MEDIC! ...Are there any infectious diseases that produce Down's Syndrome-like symptoms?
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kurth_ Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:23 PM
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30. It's genetic. See:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:44 PM
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40. No.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:13 PM
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26. It's whackier - she went to a hospital with no NICU for baby
At least that's what I heard. Even if she was an Alaskan chauvanist (sp?) why would she not go to an Anchorage hospital equipped for preemies? At least I heard the hospital she went to had no NICU.

If so, it doesn't make sense even for a whacko. One thing is she seems to lie for no reason. Maybe this is one of those lies.

Or maybe she was hoping the child would die ?????
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:14 PM
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27. Bill Maher just raised babygate....lol
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:15 PM by timeforarevolution
He said he doesn't believe it.

!!!

On Real Time.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:18 PM
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28. Dang, he also brought the sessionist issue up....
way to go, Bill! He's serious...he knows she's dangerous. When I say dangerous, I don't mean a "worthy" opponent. I mean dangerous for America; dangerous for non-white, non-Christian, non-heterosexual Americans; and dangerous for the world.

Oh, don't forget the polar bears, wolves, and creatures of God.

:)

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:28 PM
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33. 'Cause she's an ignorant redneck moran
of course.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:32 PM
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34. Facts: per Anchorage Daily news interviews SHE GAVE
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:33 PM by SoCalDem
..one interview said she had labor, but it "eased up"
.. another interview she said her waters "leaked"
..another interview she said she was "in contact" with her doctor
.. she flew home on Alaska Air COMMERCIAL flight

.. they landed at "about" 10:30 PM Anchorage..not Juneau where she lived

..they DROVE 55miles to Wasilla

..baby was said to have been born at 6:30 AM Apr 18

........................

Ask any OB/gyn if this is even remotely plausible for a FIFTH pregnancy..a high risk on ...in a 44 yar old woman ..

or ask any woman who has had 4 children what she thinks of this cockamamie story.

google any of the key words and ADN, to read the actual articles.. this stuff has been posted a brazillion times her , and I'm too tired to reach it all out again..

This was a faked pregnancy, and I only hope the Enquiror stays on it, because this is at the heart of the whole "isn;t sarah wonderful" charisma that gets Mccain into the WH.. It IS important.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:35 PM
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35. As a woman who was pregnant at 40
IT IS A BULLSHIT STORY
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:07 PM
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44. I couldn't go to sleep
on Wednesday night obsessing over the bizarre details of this story. She wasn't pregnant and she is covering up SOMETHING. The armchair detective in me is unwilling to let it go.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:25 PM
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46. I was so worried and I only had a 45 minute drive
We drove to the hospital 3 times and sat in the parking lot because I thought I was in labor and wanted to be as close as possible. My 3rd came in about 2 hours so I was concerned about the 4th
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 PM
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49. It's all laid out here..have you seen this thread
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:56 PM
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42. I don't think she wanted the baby. n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:08 AM
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50. Perhaps she had to hurry to get to the hospital where the baby was being born
That's one of the most compelling items in favor of the theory that the child was actually her daughter's, in my opinion. Otherwise her behavior is inexplicably stupid.
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