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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:52 PM
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Need Help Quick: Obama's "Not Exactlys"
Sister in law sent me the following. I'm not sure how to counter, it's TOOO much.

I'd already responded to a 'how great McCain is' which I will share later, but for now, I need to SNOPES this, but have to leave for the airport to pick up a friend.


Obama's "Not Exactly's":


1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google' Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs... Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25 African
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel
30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russan army did the liberating.

So, who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell us?! Please get to work now...not enough of your loved ones and friends know about this fraud.


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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:55 PM
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1. this should be a fun project for a du'er
not this one though--i aint going through all that shit.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:56 PM
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2. Hit and run?
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:58 PM
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3. Fighting fire with more fire, this is pretty good
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:58 PM
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4. Here are all your answers — and more:
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:00 PM
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7. Bravo!
Thanks! Very useful! :hug:
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:15 PM
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15. Wow, you're good, that's some impressive! n/t
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:00 PM
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5. Originally titled
50 lies. Guess it's being reissued under a different name. It's still bullshit.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:14 PM
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14. wow...I've never seen either...
that's some nasty shit.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:17 PM
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18. I got it from my
RW cousin-in-law. When I debunked it she didn't believe the truth. She believed the lies. Some people won't let the facts get in the way of a good smear. :eyes:
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:16 PM
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16. nobody does bullshit better than the republicans. Gawd I hate them. n/t
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:00 PM
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6. 61 flip flops of McCain
http://www.alternet.org/election08/90956/?page=entire

Made in July, so surely the list is even longer now.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:02 PM
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8. snopes it!
You'll have to go to www.snopes.com and print out the real truths concerning this email. They do a great job of dicrediting whoever the author is and his/her claims.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:02 PM
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9. Don't people have anything better to do?
Send your sister-in-law an email stating that some asshole is sending out this nonsensical email using her account, so she's obviously been hacked. Tell her to check with her server. And tell her you hope she catches the son-of-a-bitch.

These people are just too stupid to live.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:04 PM
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11. tell her it was too badly formatted for you to address....
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:24 PM
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19. That's so kind
And it will, no doubt, confuse her.

Welcome to DU, FiredUp!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:04 PM
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10. It's an updated version of the LIAR email, which is listed on Snopes
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:05 PM by BattyDem
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp


On edit: Just realized that NYCGirl already posted this link. :blush:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:05 PM
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12. As for #39:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:12 PM
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13. Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man
Are LDSs considered Christian?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:17 PM
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17. Hit "Reply All" and give her this snopes link and ask why she LIES
and what's she so afraid of exactly. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:36 PM
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20. African negro?
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fulllib Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:39 PM
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21. Numbers 2 through 4 are explained more here.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 PM by fulllib
Here’s a start:

Aside from some muck and slime this link raises about Obama’s father, this link handles numbers two and four:
#2. Grandfather Obama sent his son to a missionary school but after completing his education, the youth could find little work except goatherding in his remote village of Nyangoma Kogela, in the roadless hills of Western Kenya.

And later after education:

#4. Obama Snr was forced to return to Kenya, where he fathered two more children by Kezia. He was eventually hired as a top civil servant in the fledgling government of Jomo Kenyatta (see next link) - and married yet again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-431908/A-drunk-bigot--US-Presidental-hopeful-HASNT-said-father-.html

#3. Jomo Kenyatta described like this:

"Many Europeans reacted also by regarding him as a potentially effective threat to their position of privilege. Kenyatta immediately began organizing a political movement which would be represented all over Kenya. In June 1947 he became president of the most effective African political movement to that time, the Kenya African Union. His efforts to encourage non-kikuyu to join the movement were successful and membership in the Kenyan African Union increased by over 100,000.

In 1947 Kenyatta also accepted the position of principal of the independent Teachers' Training College at Githanguri, thus bringing another facet of Kenyan protest under his influence. But despite his considerable success, the European settler dominated government of Kenya managed to keep control of the country's evolution. Many Africans therefore became increasingly frustrated by their lack of progress, and extremist groups began to prepare for a direct challenge to European domination."

So, he was a leader of freedom, but since he was an implant from Europe, his freedom movement wasn’t as drastic a change as some splinter groups would have liked. They rose up, and Kenyatta eventually went to jail with them, in colonial trials sponsored by Britain.

http://www.answers.com/topic/jomo-kenyatta

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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:12 AM
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22. THANKS ALL! Wish I had just gone to snopes first, but HERE IS MY REPLY ALL
to my sister in law and everyone on the list:



You've already probably read my thoughts on the POW War Hero.

I hope you take a few moments here too.


In this day and age of 'forwarded emails' and promises of 'I googled all this and it's true'... I think what really needs to be sent in chain emails is a BIG OL GRAIN OF SALT!

Why o why (and when) did we STOP thinking for ourselves and just take whatever comes across in emails as the gospel truth?
Does anyone REALLY remember one of the 10 Commandments of 'not bearing false witness'? If you forward emails of 'lies, half-truths, exaggerations, and misconstruction of truths' are you not guilty as your neighbor for bearing false witness.

A few years ago, my cousin sent me an email that Madeline O"Hare was trying to take "In God We Trust" off our money.
I HAD to reply and reply all that Madeline O"Hare was dead, had been dead for a few years and was killed by her own son.

I really DONT know who has the time to concoct these emails that make the rounds.. AND WHY they do it... Is it for laffs and giggles or are they really being mean and sinister?

There is a GREAT website that has resources check out emails such as these, it's called SNOPES. If you ever get one of these types emails, BEFORE you send it on.. and bear false witness by mistake... check the site out.

It's http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

NOW, since I know you're fond of forwarding emails, how about forwarding this one BACKWARDS and tell the person who sent it to you that you would appreciate TRUTHFULNESS in emails. Lies and propagating lies have to stop.

Thanks for thinking of me and keeping me up to date on what MIGHT be happening... but let's all be good neighbors and keep a check on what we KNOW and what we DONT KNOW.. and not separate the two at the whim of liars and scoundrels!

With love........ (remember, when you get emails like this, Reply quickly with 'can you name your sources?)
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DemoRabbit Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:32 AM
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23. Snopes is the best answer... but there is a comparable McCain list...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 02:33 AM by DemoRabbit
DAMMIT..Tell Me The Truth!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/3/0717/55880/710/545421


Also, an interesting article about Obama wearing traditional Somali clothes - along with photos of other world leaders (including Dubya) wearing traditional clothes of other nations...

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_in_muslim_garb/
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:42 AM
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24. your sil
is a hard core freeper Kool-aid drinker. I would block her so that she doesn't send you anymore crap. I would also make other plans for Thanksgiving.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:49 AM
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25. Wow, I'd block her sorry ass like YESTERDAY!
What a dumbshit!

:rofl:
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