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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:13 PM
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The real 08 fight: Clinton vs. Palin
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:15 PM by ullad
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:18 PM
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1. Nope. Clinton will focus on McCain and render Caribou Barbie...
irrelevant.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:13 AM
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9. Damn right, Palin is not worth Clinton's time. n/t
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vitamin_D Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:20 AM
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10. irrelevant?
That would be true if Obama had selected Hillary for VP. A ticket of Obama/Clinton would be unstoppable and would be the dream ticket. Hillary has even more experience than Joe Biden.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:21 PM
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12. Re-read my post.
I am not saying that HRC is irrelevant. I'm saying Yukon Barbie is not worthy of her, and she should focus her sights on McCain.

Saying any ticket is "unstoppable" is fantasy. If Obama had chosen Hillary as his running mate, McCain would likely have chosen Michael Steele. That would have set Corporate Media tongues a waggin', but race v. gender.

How are you defining "experience"? I'm not pitting my candidates against one another--I think both Biden and HRC have relevant experience.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:19 PM
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2. I sincerely doubt that Hillary is cheering for Palin!!!! She is not a traitor to this country!
I resent that conclusion in the article. Actually, the article just seemed a mish-mash of conflicting stuff about Hillary v. Palin. Thanks for posting it.
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:22 PM
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3. Is anyone even reading the article?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:28 PM
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4. Didn't read it all but Hillary................
is going to campaign for the ticket and try to get some of her bills paid as well. There won't be a "girlfight"...Palin is beneath Hillary.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:17 AM
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6. I did read it, but it seemed to make opposite arguments.
Maybe I'm just too tired to comprehend right now. I'll re-read tomorrow.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:35 PM
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5. Bullshit. Palin's busy fighting with her own mouth
Her ego knows she's out of her league but as 'pukes do, she blusters and then gets found out.

Perfect example is jet "sold at profit on EBAY"

Right. She's gonna be real busy backpedaling on that one............and more
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:46 AM
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7. be sure and click on the link on the right "The Glass Ceiling" by Judith Warner
really good stuff. really really good
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:12 AM
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8. Fuck the media for pushing this story line.
They'd love nothing more than a Clinton/Palin fight. That's why it must be denied to them.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:47 AM
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11. Eagles Don't Fly With Turkeys
As others have pointed out, Hillary doesn't need to shoot down at Grandma Barracuda (will Heart allow me to keep using that name???)...just show what a real woman leader is like vs. a poser. I've read reports that Hillary is pissed at Palin trying to ride her coat-tails and sees it for the cynical play by Gramps...the one that needs to be defeated. Palin alone isn't enough votes...and if Democrats can energize and get out their vote, both this ploy and the pundits will be scratching their asses trying to figure out what hit them.

By sending Hillary to Florida...which I predicted months ago...she will help solidify the big three southern counties and along with a heavy recruting effort in the big college towns and a heavy organization effort in the black community (damn those activists), the state is very winable. I also see her going to Ohio and Colorado...fighting on "red" turf...and speaking issues.

Palin is her own undoing...and will be a major distraction within Camp Gramps (if she isn't already). This strategy now has to fight two wars...one with Obama, Biden & Clinton and the other with the media that has become obsessed with Palin and a lot of effort will bave to be put in to maintain the distraction.

I'm also sensing a bit of friction between VicoCindy and Grandma...she always makes sure to get between her and Gramps whenever possible and you can see the body language is very tense. The Ice Queen, as we saw at the convention, wants to be the light of the party...not this "rube" from Northern Exposure. Remember, substance has nothing to do with the GOOP...they're going on ego and bullshit. They want this to be an election for homecoming king & queen.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:26 PM
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13. I noticed that at the little pep rally in Wisconsin yesterday...
or at least I think it was Wisconsin. There did seem to be some weird dynamic between Cindy and Yukon Barbie. I thought it odd that Cindy was even up on stage, considering First Dude was not.
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