McSame isn't the only one not vetting Palin

[live love laugh]

Her late entry into the race seems to have been by design since it guarantees that we won't vet her either.


Consider this.

Palin is riding out the clock for these next two months further delaying any vetting by refusing media interviews, she's turning down media interviews left and right. Not only doesn't she have a record, she's not making one.
She is retaining her govenorship while running for VP to control the outcome of any investigation against her.


She has two months to dodge questions and scandal and then, she is likely to become Amerikkka's next VP where she will and can do all the things that we fear that she is capable of doing.


Democrats campaigned for office for nearly two years and the entire period has been about us while Republicans have manufactured superficial gossip to distract from their empty candidacy. Everything is on the record. How do we allow Republicans to schedule their conventions after us, play us against one another while they sit in the background and then show up for photo ops? How can Republicons even consider changing their convention at the last minute? The only answer I can think of is money and power and that's why we need to dig deep and contribute every spare dime available to take back this country from these rotten mutherfuckers. It is up to us and it won't be through protesting in a police state. We have to buy back America.

[spanone]

1. 'she is likely to become Amerikkka's next VP' shirley you jest

[live love laugh]

2. If the last two elections are any indication, I don't jest at all. It will be stolen IMHO. n/t

[firedupdem]

3. Biden will be the next VP n/t

[napi21]

4. Don't panic, at least not yet. EVERY media org. has people

digging in Alaska right now. Including The National Enquirer!! I don't recall which reporter was speaking yesterday, but she said "Many of the media investigators were JUST landing in AK right now." Sarah DOES have a few pals up there who seem to be trying to protect her image, but there seem to be MORE people who are willing to talk. Lets see what the next week or two turn up.

[live love laugh]

7. While things will surface, you still have Palin off the record and I have no

faith in "the media" even if they do have people in AK now.

[screembloodymurder]

5. We do not have the money, but I'll give what I can.

If the GOP steals another election, there will be trouble. I plan on investing in some protection as well as the election.

[KharmaTrain]

6. She's A Costly Distraction

Grandma Barracuda isn't at the top of the ticket...Gramps is...and he's the most inept candidate this corrupt party has fielded in my lifetime. Yes, worse than Bobdole. He still hasn't condolidated his party...Palin was put on the ticket to keep the fundies from staying home this year and prevent a complete blow-out. But that's a gamble that still is very high risk.

It's a cynical ploy by Schmidt and Rove to create a major distraction away from issues and turn this into a personality contest...pre-occupy the blogs and corporate media with her many scandals and away from discussing not only big issues of a failed economy, failed war for profit and a country that is on the verge of a financial and emotional breakdown. It also is an attempt to distance Gramps from the disasters of the boooosh regime (fixate people on her rather than on the real criminals who screwed up this country).

We didn't "allow" their convention after ours...it's the power of the incumbency. If Democrats win this year, they get to go last in 2012.

And, yes this was a money game...Gramps needed the fundies to write the checks and fill the church busses for any chance to stay close in this thing, but its a ruse for a terrible campaign that is being beat on the ground and on the issues. The corporate media fell for the ploy (they always do) but the money says it's helping Obama as well as while Gramps brought in $1 million during the covention, Obama took in $10 million.

But money isn't all that's needed. It's turn-out...it's getting many many newly registered Democrats...young, old, black, hispanic and independents to the polls on November 4th. If we work hard to get voters registered and to the polls in the key states...Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, Nevada and Florida, it's game over for the GOOP.

Keep your eye on the prize....

[live love laugh]

8. I didn't know that the incumbents go last. Thanks for educating me.

I agree with you re: the rest. I hope to work at the polls in November and have contributed. May contribute again. The web and emails are also still very critical. I received a real piece of garbage email re: Palin from somebody who "knows" her in AK. I will share it soon.

[KharmaTrain]

10. Here's Even More Encouragement

Yes...turn out is the game here. The 50-state strategy by Dr. Dean and Senator Obama is kicking ass. Here's a post from DKos...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/6/05150/43557/176/588661

The registration trends are in. If McCain is counting on a base turnout strategy, these numbers tell the story of why that will just not work. In contrast these numbers are good news for Obama and a demonstration of why the GOTV efforts that Obama is laying the foundation for will have such an important role. The dems are killing in a number of key states and if they can get these voters to the polls he will have an advantage.
State
R
D
Other
Period
AK 2,836 2,628 6,825 March-September
AZ 32,141 68,480 4,359 January-September
CA 46,497 417,793 117,313 January-May
CO 13,352 66,516 23,437 January-July
DE 676 4,428 2,200 July-September
FL 77,196 209,422 26,100 January-June
IA 7,515 69,301 -62,922 January-August
KS 1,553 13,159 -1,704 January-March
MD 4,260 12,338 5,544 January-July
NV 1,230 51,547 7,550 January-August
NH -1,285 1,188 269 June-August
NY 1,526 102,559 -164 November-March
NC 20,363 171,955 123,605 January-August
OR -13,349 122,518 - January-July
PA 289 98,137 15,907 April-August
WY 1,390 3,409 5,892 January-August


The key states here are Colorado, North Carolina, Nevada, Florida and to a lesser extent Pennsylvania and Iowa. The dramatic differences in these states are especially bad news for McCain because each of these states are considered swing states vital for a victory in November. To get a good handle on how Obama is doing we always have to use the Kerry map. Obama would need 19 more electoral votes than Kerry to win. Of the states above Bush won Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Iowa.

The game is to canvass...connect with voters one at a time...and make sure they get to the polls on election day.

My wife and I are arranging voting parties here...each of us will be taking between 10-15 first time voters (mostly young people) to the polls on election day to cast their first ballots. If we can get this kind of effort in the "battlegrounds", Camp Gramps is screwed.

Thanks for fighting the good fight and don't swallow the corporate media and GOOP distractions...retail politics and the ground game is what won elections for the GOOP for years, now the momentum is on our side...exploit it and win.

Cheers...

[PATRICK]

12. McCain seems to project

He knows his failure. He has been forced to accept a game of charades because his handlers have assured him he will lose any conceivable straightforward match-up. This is very unsettling for the prospects of terror distractions and war if they intend to win. By all accounts they still do. The mitigating factor is the fraud/suppression range, never directly confronted and God knows how ineffectively handled by the party itself. Still, they need some late season shake-up to cover over yet another theft, its level of blood and risk maybe in parallel to how successful the Obama campaign is in shaking off false narratives that can be used to "explain" the outcome.

Obama needs a a very LOUD and persistent attack(I'll let wiser heads debate the details). Biden especially does, since his crushing potential as one who can be the shield of frustration against McCain's incompetent foreign policy resume has been blunted of late by distraction. The meme building should have been compromised by more aggressive inroads into the GOP MSM monopoly. Griping and yapping of GOP kicked MSM lapdogs does not make for more fairness getting through to the public. Polling derived from a sick media picture is a chicken and egg thing the GOP controls. Exit polls especially must be set up in SEVERAL public and defiant independent venues to face down outrageous election fraud that must ensue this year, the more bi-partisan the better so long as bi-partisan does not mean easily suckered and compromised. People must go to jail this year for vote suppression and election fraud, but since it never happened before the stakes are too high and the history too comforting to prevent them now. Public names and even indictments have been pitiful so far- with the obvious permission of both parties.

Obama is waging a campaign, McCain a war against democracy, so this could get very asymmetrical. The only semblance to a campaign would be the GOP clinging to what Hillary's campaign showed worked, then upping it and stealing. The media will mute Obama and Biden through mere concentration on sensationalism(WE do it here) and then go about their usual business of droning the way to a plausible McCain win- with occasional bullying by pundit hysteria. Obama grimly goes about the normal business of an open presidential campaign where it is to be normally expected 53% is the most crushing victory that could be expected in most circumstances- so that damned electoral college is key. The GOP concentrates on base and last minute shake-ups or pretexts against a simmering tidal wave of doom or Obama uprise.

What I predict: Very hot on the heels of the debates incidents will occur to immediately blot out reaction and cover spin with and outside spin. Anything of convenience, more likely something long planned, relevant to the campaign or not. This will be regardless of the debate outcome since any GOP spin can at least survive if the attention is diverted quickly enough.

[live love laugh]

13. "...they need some late season shake-up to cover over yet another theft"

"The media will mute Obama and Biden through mere concentration on sensationalism(WE do it here) and then go about their usual business of droning the way to a plausible McCain win- with occasional bullying by pundit hysteria."


You couldn't be more on target.

Like you, I hope wiser heads come up with a response. But as you say, Obama is waging an actual campaign while McSame is promoting the neocon agenda--and winning in many ways. I hope those wiser heads come up with a strategy to fight fire with fire--that is--to put Obama in a place where he is fighting against McSame at the same level. Of course, when he does, the media will take him off mute and begin to "wonder" if he is resorting to dirty politics.

This is all so convoluted but there is a solution.

[KharmaTrain]

14. Assymetrical Indeed

A very good term to explain the game here. It's like Chinese checkers.

The skinny is Camp Gramps is now fighting a two-front war (also a very good analogy)...the first is against Obama-Biden to discredit, ridicule and turn the focus to personalities...they're trying to win homecoming king & queen...they can't fight on the issues and we saw bizzaro world at the RNC where Gramps said he's virtually running against himself. While the beltway media ate the narratives with a spoon...it was done at a price...a game of intimidation that used to work but took a bigger, more visible effort this time.

To keep the game from being on issues Camp Gramps is going to war with the corporate media...partly to energize a shrinking and generally demoralized base, but to stay releveant...get the face time and attempt to blot out any advantage Obama and Biden have. I heard a great analysis of the audiences that watched the conventions. The person said of the 40 million plus who watched Senator Obama, 90% were either going to vote for him or were leaning that way. With Gramps and Palin, it was more a curiosity show...with a majority being more offended than connecting. The proof was the $10 million and 130,000 first-time donations Obama picked up. There's a definite backlash on our side...and this year, there's a battle plan.

Yesterday we saw Biden ramp it up for the first time...and if you haven't Joe get cranking, he's a master (as anyone on the wrong end of him in the Judiciary or Foreign Affairs can attest). He'll also be on Meet the Press on Sunday...I expect he'll put on a clinic...disecting Gramps (and all but avoiding Grandma) that should make us feel proud.

Right now I'm not even thinking debates...as we've seen, this is short attention span theater in action...things are moving quickly and the Gramps campaign has become its own side show...while some here "concern" about it, it's a desperation game to cover up reality...in a country that wants change, that ruse won't work. I expect the race card to come out once again...that will tell us how desperate things have gotten.

Cheers...

:toast:

[NJmaverick]

9. They are not letting her talk to the media

because they have to give her a crash course on what is happening in the Country and the world.

[justgamma]

11. But, but, but she's ready to be President.

If she can't be trusted to talk to Katie C, how can she talk to Putin??