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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:29 AM
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50 million Homeland Security Dollars Sent - POLICE STATE?
I think so, no I believe so, this IS FASCISM FOLKS

THIS IS A POLICE STATE


WAKE UP


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SAP_FmmBdo


Of course if you did not go to the conventions to stand up for your beliefs it is not bothering you

IS IT?


Early every year the seeds are growing
Unseen, unheard they lie beneath the ground
Would you know before their leaves are showing
That with weeds all your garden will abound?

If you close your eyes, stop your ears
Shut your mouth then how can you know ?
For seeds you cannot hear may not be there
Seeds you cannot see may never grow

In January you've still got the choice
You can cut the weeds before they start to bud
If you leave them to grow high they'll silence your voice
And in December you may pay with your blood

So close your eyes, stop your ears,
Shut your mouth and take it slow
Let others take the lead and you bring up the rear
And later you can say you didn't know

Every day another vulture takes flight
There's another danger born every morning
In the darkness of your blindness the beast will learn to bite
How can you fight if you can't recognise a warning?

Today you may earn a living wage
Tomorrow you may be on the dole
Though there's millions going hungry you needn't disengage
For it's them, not you, that's fallen in the hole

It's alright for you if you run with the pack
It's alright if you agree with all they do



If fascism is slowly climbing back



It's not here yet so what's it got to do with you?

The weeds are all around us and they're growing
It'll soon be too late for the knife
If you leave them on the wind that around the world is blowing
You may pay for your silence with your life

So close your eyes, stop your ears,
Shut your mouth and never dare
And if it happens here they'll never come for you
Because they'll know you really didn't care

Peggy Seeger



WE MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO STOP THIS WOMAN



PRO-LIFE?



DON'T LET THAT PRETTY FACE FOOL YOU SHE IS PRO-DEATH AND SHE PRAYS FOR IT EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR EVERYTHING ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:32 AM
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1. In Denver and especially St. Paul, the POLICE STATE IS HERE.
We will have to live with the militarized police in our communities after the fatherland security test marketing of overt fascism was such a success at both conventions.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:34 AM
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2. Don't forget NOLA, Arkansas or Washington, DC community lockdowns!! This is not a test. nt
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 11:34 AM by nc4bo
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:36 AM
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5. NO was a test market for privatized fascism.
Crony disaster economics.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:34 AM
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3. Yes the real winner at the conventions was FASCISM
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 11:34 AM by seemslikeadream
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:36 AM
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4. Is that poor animal still alive? (bottom photo)
Looks like it's still alive and being tortured by Scarah Failin. :mad:
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:39 AM
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6. I thought you were referring to the VP candidate.
Disgusting animal abuser.

Animal abuse is a direct indicator of probability of human abuse and murder.

I'm just sayin'
About repulsive palin.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:41 AM
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7. Animal abuse is a direct indicator of probability of human abuse and murder.
Truer word were never spoken
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:43 AM
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8. This is how fascism comes, with quiet streets and everyone going about their business
Fascists

By John T. Flynn

11/02/06 Information Clearing House "This article is excerpted from chapter ten of As We Go Marching (1944). The entire ebook is available in PDF as a free download.]

First let us state our definition of fascism. It is, put briefly, a system of social organization in which the political state is a dictatorship supported by a political elite and in which the economic society is an autarchic capitalism, enclosed and planned, in which the government assumes responsibility for creating adequate purchasing power through the instrumentality of national debt and in which militarism is adopted as a great economic project for creating work as well as a great romantic project in the service of the imperialist state.

Broken down, it includes these devices:
1 A government whose powers are unrestrained.
2 A leader who is a dictator, absolute in power but responsible to the party which is a preferred elite.
3 An economic system in which production and distribution are carried on by private owners but in accordance with plans made by the state directly or under its immediate supervision.
4 These plans involve control of all the instruments of production and distribution through great government bureaus which have the power to make regulations or directives with the force of law.
5 They involve also the comprehensive integration of government and private finances, under which investment is directed and regimented by the government, so that while ownership is private and production is carried on by private owners there is a type of socialization of investment, of the financial aspects of production. By this means the state, which by law and by regulation can exercise a powerful control over industry, can enormously expand and complete that control by assuming the role of banker and partner.
6 They involve also the device of creating streams of purchasing power by federal government borrowing and spending as a permanent institution.
7 As a necessary consequence of all this, militarism becomes an inevitable part of the system since it provides the easiest means of draining great numbers annually from the labor market and of creating a tremendous industry for the production of arms for defense, which industry is supported wholly by government borrowing and spending.
8 Imperialism becomes an essential element of such a system where that is possible – particularly in the strong states, since the whole fascist system, despite its promises of abundance, necessitates great financial and personal sacrifices, which people cannot be induced to make in the interest of the ordinary objectives of civil life and which they will submit to only when they are presented with some national crusade or adventure on the heroic model touching deeply the springs of chauvinistic pride, interest, and feeling.

Where these elements are found, there is fascism, by whatever name the system is called. And it now becomes our task to look very briefly into our own society and to see to what extent the seeds of this system are present here and to what degree they are being cultivated and by whom.

In the light of all this we can see how far afield we can be led by those who seek for the roots of fascism by snooping around among those futile crackpot or deliberately subversive groups which flourish feebly under the leadership of various small-bore führers. Some of these groups are outright anti-American like the Bundists. Such an organization had nothing to do and can have nothing to do with introducing a new system of society into America. Its object was to assist Hitler in so far as it could in his war aims here. It was an enemy organization – and an incredibly foolish one.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15478.htm

This is how fascism comes—with a show of opposition followed by high-profile compromise, and assurances that all is well.

This is how fascism comes, with quiet streets and everyone going about their business
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:24 PM
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10. I think we need a Forum for U.S. Questionable Police State or is there
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 12:30 PM by higher class
a web site that puts this all together.

Of all the cities in the U.S., I never thought that a governor or the mayors and city councilmen and women of these two cities would collaborate like these did with the PNAC Homeland Security Mafia in St. Paul and Minneapolis.

Look how fast this subject died with all the rumors about Ms Palin. No doubt the Freddie and Fannie theft was timed to take the attention away from the brutality of the police in the Twin Cities.

I still don't know who these supposed anarchists are.

And do we know yet who really broke the windows?

Young girls who cry out in peace are virtually tortured with poison spray. How many other tools were these hormone pumped police carrying. Did they all in their hearts believe that they were dealing with hard core criminals? What were they told about what they were facing? Were they lied to? How could anyone treat protesters the way they did?

Were those involved on the police side selected based on psychological testing? It is so obvious that they used tactics that they would use on serious criminals.

Who trained these policeman - contractors, the military, Iraq verterans?

Is there anyone who can't imagine what it has been like to live in Iraq?

What side of America is this that we are condoning with this?

Are the delegates grateful for the horrible treatment of citizens who tried to protest?

Is the next act by Homeland Security to keep us from talking about this awful event?

Now we have another fact about what the Patriot Act contains.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:26 PM
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11. "SHE PRAYS FOR IT EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR EVERYTHING ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH"
I get that you're a bit emotional about this, but quit being such a moran, will ya?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:01 PM
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12. A Different Kind Of Fascism (1967)


Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."


Jim Garrison, Playboy Interview, October, 1967
"What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state. It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one of the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the state. Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the "military-industrial complex" that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life. The power of the states and Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution.

In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same.

I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."
http://bloggn.petercase.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=EDD5A9E8-B5E7-3F32-9B66DC5F74C7AE1F
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