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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:15 PM
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Howard Zinn: US 'In Need of Rebellion'
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Published on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 by Al Jazeera
Zinn: US 'In Need of Rebellion'




Al Jazeera speaks to Howard Zinn, the author, American historian, social critic and activist, about how the Iraq war damaged attitudes towards the US and why the US "empire" is close to collapse.

Q: Where is the United States heading in terms of world power and influence?

HZ: America has been heading - for some time, and is heading right now - toward less and less world power, less and less influence.

Obviously, since the war in Iraq, the rest of the world has fallen away from the United States, and if American foreign policy continues in the way it has been - that is aggressive and violent and uncaring about the feelings and thoughts of other people - then the influence of the United States is going to decline more and more.
This is an empire which is on the one hand the most powerful empire that ever existed; on the other hand an empire that is crumbling - an empire that has no future ... because the rest of the world is alienated and simply because this empire is top-heavy with military commitments, with bases around the world, with the exhaustion of its own resources at home.

(This is) leading to more and more discontent and home, so I think the American empire will go the way of other empires and I think it is on its way now.

Q: Is there any hope the US will change its approach to the rest of the world?

HZ: If there is any hope, the hope lies in the American people.

(It) lies in American people becoming resentful enough and indignant enough over what has happened to their country, over the loss of dignity in the world, over the starving of human resources in the United States, the starving of education and health, the takeover of the political mechanism by corporate power and the result this has on the everyday lives of the American people.
(There is also) the higher and higher food prices, the more and more insecurity, the sending of the young people to war.

I think all of this may very well build up into a movement of rebellion.

We have seen movements of rebellion in the past: The labour movement, the civil rights movement, the movement against the war in Vietnam.

I think we may well see, if the United States keeps heading in the same direction, a new popular movement. That is the only hope for the United States. .......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/09-0





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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:21 PM
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1. Sadly, he's right
We haven't reached the tipping point yet, but a bloody fight of some kind is coming because the ptb won't let populism rise peacefully. I keep thinking of 'V' and the reports that the US Civil War rages on....
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:23 PM
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2. Call it what it really needs to be, REVOLUTION.
It can't be won without the military on our side, however.

Guillotines lined up on the Washington Mall could solve a lot of the nation's problems efficiently, however.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:49 PM
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9. If the military joins the rebellion, it will be them against Blackwater & ilk
With ordinary people caught in the middle.

Nightmare scenario, that. :nuke:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:25 PM
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3. As long as globalized corporatism is the defacto world government, there is little point. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:40 PM
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6. Well, there was a time when the British Empire was the de-facto world government
That kind of changed.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:46 PM
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8. The British Empire did not have collabos in every government in the world, however. nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:28 PM
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4. I agree and you can have bloodless revolutions.
It's a matter of overthrowing the illigitimate entitities who have taken over our government, in this case corporations through their puppet, the GOP, then passing laws to prevent them from ever gaining power through government again.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:14 PM
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14. It's the corporations, stupid!
(I keep trying to get that meme taken up.... ;) )
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:29 PM
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5. Proudly number 5!
I've been hoping he's been faring well since his wife's passing
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:07 PM
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7. A rebellion?
While Idol is on?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:49 PM
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10. Sad but true. If we don't take the country back by force, some other country
will have to.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:54 PM
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11. We are working to get my mountain home off the grid right now.
Solar, wind and water collecting.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:55 PM
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12. recommended
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:02 PM
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13. I'm scared because this feels more and more true with each day.
Is it too much to hope now that Obama and we the American people can work within the system instead of overthrowing it? I'm worried because I do not anticipate the idea of blood spilled as lightly as the Republicans seem to.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:07 PM
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15. Highly recommend!
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