Volunteer for a faith based organization

[malaise]

Why the hell?

[Liberal Veteran]

1. That sounds like community organizing.

Which is so terrible, you know.

[thunder rising]

2. That would be the McCain/Palin campaign would it?

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. For the last two years I have gone to a local church (Calvary Chapel) and served Thanksgiving dinner

to people less fortunate than myself before going home to have my own. My daughter gets involved as well as my fiance.

It is one of the most humbling experiences I've ever had.

I'm afraid I don't understand your question.

[malaise]

8. Well I have worked with young people for decades

but it has nothing to do with faith. Why did that jackass from Time say faith based organizations. There are many service organizations that are secular.

[Solly Mack]

4. Gonna hafta pass

[panader0]

5. That stuck in my craw too.

Volunteer? How much does it pay? Is it to be forced labor? Will there be meals and cots? It all sounds too vague to me.

[ColbertWatcher]

6. F-F-F-F-FUCK NO! NO NO NO NO! n/t

[Bluebear]

7. Sorry, grampa, I have no "faith"

[malaise]

10. Gramps is a faith based LIAR

He would be comic relief if he wasn't so damn crazy and ambitious.

[jody]

9. How is that different from "Barack Obama's Plan for Universal Voluntary Public Service"?

See http://www.barackobama.com/issues/service/

[malaise]

11. I am all for volunteer public service

but I am a part of secular society.

[jody]

13. I understand. I assume you oppose Obama's "Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships"

http://www.barackobama.com/2008/07/01/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_86.php

[malaise]

18. I don't oppose faith based organizations

I object to them being the only choice. There are hundreds of effective secular community organizations.

[jody]

19. Since I object to my taxes being used for some charitable organizations operated by specific

religions, in good conscience I must object to all charitable organizations operated by all religious organizations.

For me to do otherwise would mean I infringe upon my understanding of separation of state and religion protected by the First Amendment.

Of course I as one voter and taxpayer depend upon SCOTUS to protect my natural, inherent, inalienable/unalienable rights against the tyranny of a simple majority of representatives in congress and they have failed to protect me in recent years.

[Dogtown]

20. You do intend to vote for Obama

despite this criticism?

[jody]

21. Yes, the pictures below describe me 100% as I've always been beginning with votes for Adlai.

[Dogtown]

22. Just clarifying, thanks for

your civil reply.

Don't know who to trust, these days.

I disagree with that plank, also. (But, I, also, AM voting for Mr. Obama. I'm no 1-trick pony!)

I also agree with a broad view of the 2nd Amendment, with *reasonable* restrictions for the safety of all; those restrictions penalizing unsafe behavior, not classes of weapons.

I'm a neighbor, of sorts, in NW Georgia, but I'm a transplant from the midwest. Nice to meet you.

:hi:

[jody]

24. I'm a dog also, well actually a Dawg alumni!!

[AndyTiedye]

15. The "Faith-Based" Part Seems Like a Pretty Big Difference

[jody]

16. Makes sense to me given that over 75% of U.S. citizens claim to be Christians. n/t

[SalmonChantedEvening]

12. So you too can deny the poor services you object to!!

:grr:

[malaise]

14. Go to the top of the class

:applause:

[Dogtown]

23. Or make them

"pray" to some god before they get help.

[shadowknows69]

17. As soon as a local pagan group starts and gets some funding sign me up