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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:24 PM
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McCain Flat-Out Lies about Palin's Earmarks
September 12, 2008 2:38 PM

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., once again steered clear of straight talk when discussing his running mate's record on earmarks today.


BARBARA WALTERS: What is she going to reform specifically?

JOHN MCCAIN: Well, first of all, earmark spending, which she vetoed half a billion dollars worth in state of Alaska

BARBARA WALTERS: She also took some earmarks.

JOY BEHAR: A lot.

JOHN MCCAIN: No, not as governor she didn't. She vetoed – Look, well, the fact is she's a reform governor.


The Anchorage Daily News reported this month that Palin in 2007 sought "52 earmarks valued at $256 million in Palin’s first year. This year, the governor’s office asked the delegation to help them land 31 earmarks valued at $197 million."
http://community.adn.com/node/130579

USA Today reported in March of this year that "Arizona, the second fastest growing state in the nation, will receive just $18.70 per capita in federal earmarks this fiscal year. By comparison, Alaska — with roughly a tenth of Arizona's population — is set to receive $506.34 per capita, the highest in the nation, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, a watchdog group which tracks earmarks. The state of Alaska receives about three times as much as Arizona receives in actual dollars, $346 million to $119 million."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-22-earmarks_N.htm


read: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/to-the-ladies-o.html


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:26 PM
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1. Does it even matter if people lie anymore?
Almost seems like we should just throw the biggest whoppers we can out there...no downside :crazy:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:41 PM
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4. I think you're mostly right
. . . there is more of a mentality out there these days that a successful slam has more virtue than a truthful one. But, our integrity is a very important distinction from the prevaricating republicans.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:54 PM
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6. here you go . . .
from Slate: http://www.slate.com/id/2199923/?from=rss


Why isn't Obama stretching the truth more often?


Posted Friday, Sept. 12, 2008, at 4:03 PM ET

Since July, John McCain and his campaign have made 11 political claims that are barely true, eight that are categorically false, and three that you'd have to call pants-on-fire lies—a total of 22 clearly deceptive statements (many of them made repeatedly in ads and stump speeches). Barack Obama and Joe Biden, meanwhile, have put out eight bare truths, four untruths, and zero pants-on-fire lies—12 false claims. These stats and categories come from PolitiFact, but the story looks pretty much the same if you count up fabrications documented by FactCheck.org or the Washington Post's Fact Checker, the other truth-squad operations working the race: During the past two and a half months, McCain has lied more often and more outrageously than Obama.

Of course, it isn't possible to prove in any scientific manner that McCain is being more deceptive than Obama. Even if we could pin down every lie that each candidate tells, we'd never be able to reach a consensus about the seriousness of each deception. When the candidates spoke at Rick Warren's megachurch in August, both stretched the truth slightly. Which of their falsehoods is worse—Obama's claim that the abortion rate hasn't declined during the Bush years (it has), or McCain's claim that he'd give a $7,000 per-child tax credit to families when in fact his tax plan calls for a slight increase in the exemption on families' taxable income?

Your answer depends on several factors—whether you care more about abortion or taxes, whether you're inclined to ascribe the candidates' deceptions to error or to political calculation, and, of course, whether you're supporting Obama or McCain. Judging political lies is a bit like trying to evaluate bad American Idol performances; we agree that they all kind of suck, but we can still have endless fights about which ones suck the least.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:28 PM
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2. Don't you wish that could actually be a headline?
I mean, one that meant something?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:34 PM
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3. we just might be coming to that
. . . with the breathtaking amount of bullshit coming out of the McCain camp
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:46 PM
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5. McClown is a Dishonorable Person. McClown is Liar.
Sen. Obama needs to point out McClown's lies & call him a liar everyday.He needs to say: Sen. McCain is a Dishonorable person. He is a liar. America cannot afford another liar as Pres.
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