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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:50 PM
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Poll question: Security question
I currently run Kaspersky Internet Security (KIS 2009) because of the concerns I have in regards to American computer security companies (like Symantec/Norton) and the NSA. But Russia also isn't in great political shape. I'm not a Russian citizen, but I suppose they could still spy on Americans, especially now. Which do these do think would be safest to use if the government spying through the security program is one of my concerns?
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:53 PM
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1. Apple
:popcorn:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:55 PM
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2. I'd like to try one, but can't afford it
:-)
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:58 PM
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3. Avast AV with a good firewall, SpywareBlaster in background, and Firefox 3 browser.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:09 PM
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5. I've been very happy with Avast myself (nt)
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:04 PM
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10. Me three (Avast).
But how can you tell if you're being spied on? AFIK, you can't.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:08 PM
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11. avast is definitely the way to go. ditto firefox. but i use ad-aware as the other peg.
nt
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:59 PM
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4. I like Eset's NOD32
http://www.eset.com/

Very light, don't really notice it on the system, yet it gets high marks in reliability:

Antivirus protection is spelled "NOD32." Built on the award-winning ThreatSense® engine, ESET NOD32 Antivirus software proactively detects and eliminates more viruses, trojans, worms, adware, spyware, phishing, rootkits and other Internet threats than any program available.

It won't prevent you from feeling slimely and like you need a shower if you track a troll back to Freeperland, but at least you won't get the dreaded Palin virus...
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:32 PM
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6. And that's Eastern European
Which would be good for the paranoid like me. It also scores well. :hi:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:42 PM
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7. For those saying Norton or McAfee would be best, why?
Is it because you use it and like it, or because you really trust American companies more?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:48 PM
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8. If you want real security, against spying, you have to encrypt.
Without encryption, you can be read.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:52 PM
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9. Oh yes, extra tools help
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 05:53 PM by mvd
I use a key-scrambler extension for Firefox, and am thinking about an all purpose program. And I guess the NSA could get in if they really wanted to. But I still don't want my program to facilitate spying or not detect their spyware.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:30 PM
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12. Well, that's correct.
But you can be perfectly secure in the sense of not allowing remote viewing of your machine, poking around in your file system or the like, and still have all traffic coming and going from your machine readable on the net.

If the issue is preventing "remote viewing" and you are serious about it, you have to go open source and know internet protocols and read the code. Or trust somebody.

FWIW, I use AVG and am quite happy with it. I never encrypt anything because AFAIK I have nothing to hide and not much to lose. If I ran servers of any sort, I'd have to do a lot more investigation.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:53 PM
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13. Also have nothing to hide, but until Obama gets in and..
fixes the system to where it was, I'll be wary.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:57 PM
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14. Wary is good. nt
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:51 PM
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15. there's no great answer to "who watches the watcher?"
Security "suites" in general tend to be humongous resource pigs that try to compensate for Windows' lack of reality testing (Microsoft suffers a similar corporate malady to the Bush admin, no one can tell management the truth (without losing their jobs)). But it isn't like Eastern Europe is especially sheltered from US influence, so if privacy from espionage is the problem your best bet is to download the geekiest sounding Linux distribution and find a teenager to install it on your boot drive; any "security" software on Windoze is lipstick on a pig IMO (and I mostly live/work in the Microsloth world, so this isn't an elitist MacOS rant).
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:59 PM
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16. Yah.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 08:00 PM by bemildred
I have FreeBSD setup to have NO open ports. Viruses are not much of a problem in BSD. But I don't use it much because I don't care. I mostly run Win98SE. I won't run most "security suites" because they are like going to bondage and discipline camp, but I run a firewall on my DSL router and free anti-virus software (AVG).
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