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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:25 PM
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Picture of two dogs left in Galveston to drown
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 05:26 PM by Taverner


http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Hurricane_Ike_approaches.html

The owners, gone - the dogs, still there...

Fuck
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:28 PM
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1. I saw that a second ago and came unglued....
...Hopefully that photographer had a conscience and did something about that. There was another shot in that same series of another dog abandoned there.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:29 PM
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I stopped looking after this one
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:28 PM
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2. That is so horrible...I cannot believe humans can be so cruel...
I can only hope someone or some agency can rescue these poor animals...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:29 PM
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3. I hate people. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:29 PM
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6. So do I!
:mad:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:31 PM
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10. How hard would it be to at least let them loose.
I'm against hatred in general but this is too fucking much. :grr:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:34 PM
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15. How hard would it be to take them with? I couldn't leave my dogs. I just couldn't!
We would all drown together if it had to be that way. And I mean that!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:34 PM
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18. ME TOO.
I could not leave them, I just would not.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:37 PM
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22. I'm alone with 6 cats and a dog. They're ALL getting out
if we have an earthquake or a tsunami here in the zone.

I can't even think about this. It makes me way more angry than I even know how to handle.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:44 PM
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33. There was a pic of a little dog on a bridge after Katrina struck. He was soaked in oil and he looked
like he was suffering so and I am sure he was. It broke my heart.:cry: I only hope the person who took that pic, rescued him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:48 PM
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41. Like I said, I hate people.
All my cats are rescues that were left to die somewhere, mostly in trash cans in downtown Los Angeles. I never wanted six cats but the alternative for them was being put down because people are idiots.

I can't believe what people do.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:55 PM
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51. You are a good person! I have four dogs, two are rescues that I didn't need but they needed me and
now I can not imagine my life without them.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:14 PM
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117. Here you go. I also answered it downthread, hoping you will find it.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:17 PM by usnret88
www.stars-of-texas.org/Oily-dog.html

Ours will go with us if we must go, or we all will stay put. We have five furkids. They are our babies.

When ms ret88 was in a rehab hospital after a motorcycle accident, for a long time she had trouble even remembering the names of the grandchildren (some brain trauma when she hit the road, but a helmet saved her.) She asked about the 'puppies' every day though. I got permission from the hosp to bring one after I provided her vet records. I brought Sophie - a shih tsu/miniature cocker mix. All the patients who were physically able held her. When it was time for ms ret88 to take a nap, Sophie laid beside her for two hours without moving. Sophie had only been on a leash a few times for vet visits, but behaved this time like it was a daily thing. She did not bark one single time, did not get excited and make a mess inside, and was extremely good therapy.

edited to correct spelling
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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:39 PM
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23. Amen to that. My dog and cat are my family.
There is no way in hell I could leave them. I saw my cocker spaniel Candace born 8 years ago, and I'll be there when she leaves me.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:52 PM
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47. My dogs are my babies. I rescued two of them. They will be in the car before I am.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:31 PM
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95. And so do I!
So much for humanity!
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:46 PM
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107. So did the person taking the pic get the dogs to safety?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:46 PM by SmileyRose
or did they take the pic and move on?

Hopefully the former.



Edit - sorry wrong location, this was meant for the OP.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:24 PM
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124. Ditto! Hubby says I'd much rather be with my dogs.
:hi:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:29 PM
Original message
Damnit!
:cry: People can be so cruel! :grr:
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:29 PM
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4. what's the matter with people!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:29 PM
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5. GOD IN HEAVEN: who could be so cruel....
Talk about feeling totally helpless and miserable... That shot is going to stay with me...:cry:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:31 PM
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9. Lots of people
:cry:
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Ferretherder Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:44 PM
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32. Who could be so cruel?......
...the same people who will proudly walk into a voting booth on November 7th and pull the lever/touch the button/poke the chad for McCain/Palin.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:30 PM
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7. I can't stand it.
:cry:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:35 PM
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20. I can't either. To do this to a DOG.
To a DOG, the most loyal friend anyone can have.

We're a species of fucking sociopaths.
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SteppingStone Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:20 PM
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82. Same Here. It's breaking my heart.


:cry:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:30 PM
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8. They have no chance, absent a miracle rescue.
Sorry, but that's the truth. I don't know what else to say, except to make a contribution.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:31 PM
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11. Was anything done to save these dogs!!!! n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:32 PM
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12. No idea. The picture is just one of several in a slide show
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:35 PM
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19. What is the original link so I can investigate!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:36 PM
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21. Here ->
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:41 PM
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28. I sent this to a friend of minehere in FL who runs dog rescue and used to be a reporter.
She might know how to contact the AP photog and get these dogs rescued.

Doug D.
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:44 PM
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34. Excellent idea.
I just posted the Houston phone number for AP.

Another possibility is contacting the Galveston Humane Society at (409) 740-1919.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:46 PM
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37. Calling now...
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:48 PM
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42. Humane Society has evacuated..just got voice mail..
I left a message but I don't think it will be heard in time.

Doug D.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:49 PM
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43. Humane society has evacuated the island, urging people to take pets with them, recording
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 05:49 PM by Bluebear
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:49 PM
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44. Humans are the most cruel creatures on this earth
This should be reported to Animal Control or the ASPCA. Animal cruelty is against the law.
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:41 PM
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30. Kim Christensen of AP is credited on the photo.
The phone number for the Houston office of AP is (281) 872-8900
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:45 PM
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35. OK, I left a message... He/she has to call back...n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:55 PM
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50. I can't find anybody who knows Christensen at the numbers I got.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:02 PM
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60. Send email to ike@khou.com!
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:31 PM
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92. Is there not animal rescue?
During the last Hurricane, there where several Animal Rescue operations going on. I hope that this will happen here too.
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:44 PM
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104. I send a message to this email address. . It was returned as undeliverable.
postmaster@dallasnews.com Delivery Status Notification (Failure) 7:34 PM 6KB
Read
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:57 PM
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109. Could this be her?
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #109
113. Yes, and I called without success because
"Due to heavy calling, your call cannot be completed"...

Is that because people are clogging the 713 area code, or that number specifically? :shrug:

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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:33 PM
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13. Why didn't the person who took the f+++ing picture let them
loose?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:34 PM
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14. They may have after they took the picture
:shrug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:34 PM
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16. Maybe they did - I don't know
They might have snapped the shot, then taken out a chain cutter and loosed them.

Again, they may not have.
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:33 PM
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130. Consider that a vast majority of people who saw that scene would let them out
As troubled as I am by the photo, I believe the odds are great that the photographer either let them out or saw to it that they were released.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:34 PM
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17. Yup. Some people suck, it's true.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:39 PM
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24. Oh! Oh! Oh! But this guy rescued his FLAG!
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:57 PM
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53. By all means wave it high.
I sure hope someone got those dogs.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:39 PM
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25. This is a guess, and only a guess.
Because I WANT to think no one would do this on purpose, but maybe someone told them you can't have dogs running loose in a danger zone. And the people may have left thinking it wasn't going to be that bad (even though the reports contained the words 'certain death'). No forward thinking?

Nah, some people are just selfish bastards.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:40 PM
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26. omg
that's just cruelty on a level I cant imagine. I'm crying looking at this , and I'm not even really a "dog person". This is unconscionable.
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NanBo Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:40 PM
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27. their expressions
they know something is not right. I hope they have a way out of that pen and can at least make an attempt to swim....
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:41 PM
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29. Please be prepared no matter where you live.
I'm in earthquake country. You don't get forwarned of quakes so it is of the utmost important to have your emergency ducks (and other pets!) in a line. 3 cats/3 carriers, food, water, bowls, etc. We can even bring a portable litter box if we need to evacuate. PLEASE have your emergency supplies together: hurricane, tornado, earthquake, repuke regime. BE PREPARED.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. That's right. Have a plan. And, abandoning your animals is NOT a fucking plan.
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. I'd die myself before I would leave my cats and dogs behind.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:47 PM
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39. I would too! Seriously!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #31
38. You're right, It's NOT A PLAN!
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:47 PM
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40. So who took the fucking picture and what are they doing
about it!!??

I rarely curse on DU, but this pisses me off. There is no way that I would see an animal in those straits and not do something.

I have seen the fucking vultures of the news media down here in Key West, waiting to feast on the corpses of those of us who do not evacuate. I guess a dog will do as well for them.

God help the person who sees this and does nothing.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:50 PM
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45. In other news, how about a picture of the two humans saved by the owner who had spare seats?
Just sayin....

Katrina was the perfect example of the opposite. People with money and means were driving their half empty cars, filled partially with their pets, while poor (mostly black) people drowned. No one knows the circumstances of this situation, but sometimes priorities gotta come first. For what its worth, that really doesn't look like a kennel to me, and we have no idea if the animals are trapped at all.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. We can only hope that is the case
I hope you're right
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #45
48. I agree.
But this is a topic that never goes well. People are being told they're going to die if they don't get out. I'm not going to sit here where I'm safe and judge. We don't know what the circumstances are. The people involved may not have had a choice.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. Give me a fucking break. No person has to be ousted from a car seat
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 05:56 PM by sfexpat2000
for a CAT.

If you can grab a person, you can grab a dog or a cat, too.

Your priorities sound more like justifications for the unjustifiable.

/grammar

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. ...
:thumbsup:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:00 PM
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58. My point is you don't know the circumstances...
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:02 PM by Oregone
And without such, we cannot even approach justifications of anything. Look at all the outrage, despite the apparent ignorance of the situation. A single snapshot of any incidence can tell a complete different story from another. What if the next five pictures show the owner putting the animals in a boat before heading out? What if the owner was away from the island and didn't make it back in time? Maybe the owner was gone for the day, canvassing neighborhoods for Obama, expecting to arrive in an hour to help? What if the people he gave his seats to, with their children on their laps, and his cats on the children's laps, had no room for the dogs? Screw that, throw the children out!

Come on, save your outrage for something besides a snapshot.

But I do stick to an original tangent. If I had a choice between my animals and my neighbors (known or not), I would put my seats in the best use possible.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #58
63. Canvassing neighborhoods for Obama?
Oh my, your political stripe is really showing itself now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:04 PM
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65. It's a false dilemma.
There is no reason to chose between a person and an animal. That's what the hack alarm salesman tried to use on me when my kids were little. "In a fire, which kid would you rescue?"

Bullshit.

You can do both. It's not rocket science.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:22 PM
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84. And its false outrage
Because no one here knows the circumstance
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:30 PM
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91. Posters to this thread objecting to abandoning animals are not false.
Maybe somewhere in your head it's just some kind of game but out here where we rescue animals from freaks like this everyday, it's not "false".
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:18 PM
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120. So the owner is a freak and the dogs abandoned?
Maybe the owner passed away in the night. Maybe the dogs were rescued minutes later. Im labeling the outrage as false as the dilemma, being that it is based on a picture with no facts.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #65
129. the syrupy self-righteous outrage in this thread almost seems like a caricature of some rw'ers idea
of what they think "liberals" act like.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #58
69. 'save your outrage for something besides a snapshot' - SORRY. Some photos tear at our hearts.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:23 PM
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85. But sadly, I rarely see an equivalent outrage over a picture of a dead Iraqi child when posted
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:25 PM by Oregone
And we normally know there was a fatality in that case, and that the US's actions, through some long chain or another, directly caused it.


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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:29 PM
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89. Nonsense. Not even worth debating with you.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:32 PM
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96. ...
:thumbsup:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:21 PM
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122. 100+ responses on a graphic...
...of a dead iraqi child? Lately I just observe people posting, "You should of put a *GRAPHIC* warning in the title!"

Yes, its relevant because this is a mass over-reaction to a snapshot in time with zero facts. Everyone is making assumptions, lighting candles for the all ready presumed dead dogs, and finding means to hunt down and punish their "freak" owners. Give me a fuckn break all ready.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:31 PM
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93. Bullshit.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:01 PM
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111. Civilian death on whichever side is always a progressive concern
and among the reasons I champion Democrats' foreign policy. Challenging people to rank their empathy is a conservative tactic to challenge the validity of empathy, period. Empathy is the reason I'm liberal. It should be cheered on in all its forms.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:07 PM
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70. My seats are reserved for my dogs. Period! And that would be the best possible use for me.
The dogs can sit on laps.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:00 PM
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59. Exactly! And even then, it doesn't justify locking animals up
If they're let loose, at least they have the opportunity to run or swim to safety.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:06 PM
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67. At least let them loose to find the high ground on their own.
I shouldn't even read these threads. :grr:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:10 PM
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74. Yeah me either!
:grr:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:18 PM
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79. That really doesn't look like a kennel to me.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:19 PM by Oregone
A big chain fence, yes, but not an enclosed kennel. You nor I know if they are locked up.

Further, if they were, you do not know why. What if the owner was gone and couldn't make it back? Then scream outrage at the neighbors and the photographer that brought you that nugget.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:56 PM
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52. Then why didn't they put them in the house at least?**nm
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NanBo Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:06 PM
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66. would that be best?
Seriously, I have no idea and am asking. I live in tornado land, not water land. Just seems locking them in might be worse as then they have no chance to at least survive. Either way, their a responsibility one considers when they get them--not a throw away when times get tough. So many great vet people went down after Katrina to help such animals, I wonder if they can give some insight?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:11 PM
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75. Maybe they figured it would be more likely someone would see them?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:12 PM by Pithlet
It turned out to be the case. Someone was at least able to take pictures of them. Hopefully that means someone was able to rescue them. Who knows what went through their minds as they were fleeing. It could very well be that they are jerks who didn't care. It could be that they had children, or maybe elderly parents, or maybe recent changes in their lives that rendered their previous emergency plans moot. The economy has been sucking lately, after all.

I think for us to automatically judge the people heartless when we don't know their stories is harsh. We just don't know. Millions of people are being told to flee or they might die. Heartbreaking things like this are going to happen. It doesn't mean the people involved are heartless jerks. It probably broke their hearts. They may not have had a choice. I don't think we can ask people to stay behind, and possibly make their dependents stay with them, to die with their pets. I think that's ludicrous. We can't assume they had the ability to take their pets with them for the reasons I outlined above. And I'm sure I'll be called heartless for that position. Nothing I can do about that.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:20 PM
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81. Good question...Questions trump assumptions
Maybe they left for the day before they found out how intense this was and couldn't get back?

Im playing devil's advocate here of course, but that isn't a bad thing, you know.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:40 PM
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102. Well if I leave in this instance, my dogs leave with me. Simple as that, for me.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:58 PM
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55. I can't handle this
:cry:

(((((poor babies)))))
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:00 PM
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56. wtf is wrong with ppl???
How hard is it to take your animals with you?? You sure as hell wouldn't leave your kids there to drown so why your dogs??
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:14 PM
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77. Exactly! How much room does a dog or cat take up anyway? Heck put in the truck if you have too.
Most cars have in the back seat with an entrance to the trunk. My '98 Grand Prix does.
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:44 PM
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105. This should be a crime
Abandoning animals to a prob death should be a crime. Dogs & cats do not take up so much room that you cannot fit them in the backseat when evacuating. Obscene.
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:17 PM
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119. It is a crime!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:00 PM
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57. fuckers
fuckers fuckers fuckers
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:03 PM
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61. Indeed!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:11 PM
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76. and the man with the flag... does the idiot think the hurricane cares?
that waving a flag will somehow intimidate the hurricane? Is he sending a patriotic message of some kind to the hurricane? WTF?

What? This is America and Ike can't hurt us?

Seriously...WTF?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:04 PM
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62. people here treat thier pets like livestock, but worse.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:04 PM
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64. When Jesus said 'what you did to the least of these, you did to me...."

that was supposed to include animals....

There will be an atoning for ALL cruelty
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321Outright Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:06 PM
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68. reminds me of this
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:13 PM by 321Outright


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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:08 PM
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71. Just copy & paste the URL
You don't need to add any code.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #68
80. I wish I could find the pic of the little dog, oil soaked, in the heat, on the bridge after Katrina
struck. That was so heartbreaking. :cry: This pic reminds me of that little dog.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:02 PM
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112. Check this out. I think it's the same little white dog, along with the
story of it's rescue. When the picture was shown on teevee, my wife made me turn it off and go outside so I could vent. Our furkids will go with us if we must go, else we will not go.

www.stars-of-texas.org/Oily-dog.html
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 07:29 AM
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126. Thank You So Much. Yes that is the little dog and I am so glad she was rescued and given a great
home. That pic haunted me. I know how you felt when seeing that pic. I cried lots over it. Yes our furkids go with us if we must go, too. I would never leave them behind. EVER! Again thank you so much for sharing this with me. I tried to find this but had no success.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:09 PM
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72. Sarah Palin would just shoot them from an airplane - NT
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:35 PM
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99. Damn! Probably right.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:09 PM
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73. I'm going to throw up.
Why the fuck are they TAKING PICTURES of them instead of freaking RESCUING THEM!!!!!

I HATE PEOPLE. I really do.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:16 PM
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78. I hate people too! Especially people like this.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:21 PM
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83. Bless those two fellas.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:24 PM
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86. What I don't
get is the casual cruelty that people exhibit. These people show no compassion for living creatures, yet I am supposed to feel compassion for them? My husband and I have been having an ongoing conversation about this. Where is the breaking point?
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:28 PM
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87. This ruined my day. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:29 PM
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88. I know.
:hug:
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:30 PM
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90. Damn. People can be such assholes.
:cry: :banghead: :cry:

My dogs go where I go come hell or high water.

I think in an absolute worst case scenario, if you can't take your pets with you or find someone else to take care of them, at least set them loose to find higher ground.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:31 PM
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94. I saw that one
In the 95 pictures link . . . my heart breaks for those two. They're locked in - they can't even run to save themselves.

Now why the hell didn't someone break the lock and take them with them! Please tell me the photographer didn't even try to help those two sets of big eyes. :-(
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:33 PM
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97. Bet those two dogs would have stayed with their owner no matter what!
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:34 PM by Blue State Native
Loyal to the end!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:35 PM
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98. I know that Galveston was emphasizing that people COULD take their pets with them...even on the bus.
People needing assistance to evac COULD take their pets with them.

They learned alot from Katrina with regard to the love bond between people and their best fur friends.

I couldn't imagine leaving my cats and dogs to drown.

I hope somebody grabbed those two fellas and keeps them safe.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:40 PM
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101. I'm hoping the photographer did. n/t
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:41 PM
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103. Ever since I saw the photo, I have been ill. Someone needs to rescue those dogs.
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ullad Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:38 PM
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100. email was returned as undeliverable
postmaster@dallasnews.com Delivery Status Notification (Failure) 7:34 PM 6KB
Read
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:44 PM
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106. We have five furkids. Four tiny ones and one 38 pounder named
Rusty. Rusty must be rocked, in a rocking chair, with me holding him like a child every morning as soon as I get up.

We spoke of evacuations this evening. If it comes to a choice where there is no place that will take us AND the furkids, then we will not go. We go as a group or not at all.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:49 PM
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108. I looked through a lot of that slide show and I'm feeling queasy.
While I agree about people leaving the dogs, I couldn't believe the picture of the 15 yr. old and the man who had his 13 yr. old son in the waves breaking over the sea wall.

Jeebus kids shouldn't be sentenced to an almost certain death because of their parents, and the animals don't deserve this either. Heartsick here.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:00 PM
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110. Never fit to be owners in the first place....fucking jerkoffs
I would love to leave THEM there to drown....see what it fucking feels like
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xloadiex Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:06 PM
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114. If my 3 dogs and 2 cats are going to drown
I'm going to go with them. People who can just leave their animals like that shouldn't have had them in the first place. Heartbreaking.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:15 PM
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125. Belated welcome to DU!
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:07 PM
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115. I can't get the link to open, and frankly I'm glad
How could people do this???????? :cry:
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:08 PM
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116. SOB! We have rescue greyhounds, a rescue lab, and and a rescue terrier-mix. We go down together.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:15 PM
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118. I'm the mom of two rescues...
a viszla mix that some idiot let loose in a rural area of Oklahoma to die and a bulldog/boxer mix that i found wandering the streets of pasadena, ca. both dogs had emotional problems that had to worked through (separation anxiety, escaping, etc). never for a minute would my husband and i leave them. when the tornado sirens go off, into the closet with us they go. my husband works at a dog boarding facility and he'll go in to calm the dogs during bad storms...they are our family and our best buddies.

stories like this make me ill.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:21 PM
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121. Awful! We have 9 furry kids...3 dogs, 3 cats, and 3 horses...
We only have a two horse trailer right now, so if there is an evacuation in the near future, we are staying. I'm working on getting a stock trailer that will hold all 3 horses. Until then...we stay together. I could NEVER leave any of my animals behind, they are my family.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:23 PM
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123. We are spending all kinds of money on our dog with cancer.
And this is just about as sick as it can get. Our other dog is a rescue Weim. Who ever took that picture needed to get them out of there. I hope this makes the news and they find out who the owners are by the address. Idiots! Just plain idiots!
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:08 AM
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127. I think the owners should have secured them in the house at least
I remember when we had to evacuate to a shelter when I was a child, living in Fl, and couldn't take our cat. Their are precautions that pet owners can take.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:41 AM
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128. The storm surge could have gone as high as 25 or 30 feet in some places. A house
would still have been a death trap. :(
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