Maybe it's time to move the refineries to South Dakota

[SoCalDem]

or Nebraska or West Virginia.. It seems to me that it may just be too expensive to continue to have these things in harm's way..

[AldebTX]

1. Ports

Most are near ports....we've got to import that oil don't ya know.

[dbonds]

2. They are there because that is where all the offshore rigs are.

If you move them too far way then gasoline goes up because of shipping prices of the crude to the refinery. We might need to build a pipeline from that area to maybe somewhere more inland though.

[SoCalDem]

4. Ratface Cornyn just said the damages could be 100BILLION

and they could be offline for 9 months.. surely it would be cheaper to ship it up the mississippi and then truck it...or build the refineries more inland..even if it means land or river transport....Rebuilding the infrastructure every year seems like a lose-lose to me:shrug:

[dbonds]

5. I agree. Wouldn't have to go too far inland, N LA area, or NE texas.

We could build a pipeline to reduce the transport cost.

[nebenaube]

3. I voted earlier for Nevada

West Virginia is just to green still.

[Wiley50]

6. No Oil Company In US Has Applied For Permit To Build A New Refinery In 35 Years n/t

They are and have been aware of Peak Oil and the need to transition from hydrocarbon fuel for decades

and have not wanted to invest money in new infrastructure when it won't operate long enough to turn a profit.

That's why they are fighting the world for the last reserves these days and delaying the transition unti

they capitalize as much as possible. They are making a killing on these days of short supply.

[Dr.Phool]

8. They shut a lot down in the 90's. A couple I know of in Ohio.

With the intent to create a bottleneck, and tighten supply. There are documents to prove that they conspired.

[DU9598]

7. Funny you should mention South Dakota

Just across the river from Sioux City, Iowa, the Houston-based energy company Hyperion is in the early stages to secure land to build the nation's newest and hopefully greenist oil refinery. Read about it here: <http://www.absolutedsm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2202&start=210>

[dysfunctional press]

9. what about tornadoes?

i don't think that they would be too kind to a refinery.

it's best to have them closer to the source- i.e. tankers and off-shore rigs.

[Sal Minella]

10. Think this one (in So. Dak) is intended for oil piped down from Canada --

'member when The Dark Lord of Dark Matter went to Canada to check on the oil sands resources? So what that it's an ecological disaster, you think he cares?