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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:17 PM
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on weather channel, 15 church-praying ppl now trapped on roof of church
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:18 PM by meow mix
and no one can get to them or even confirm it.. they are there for the night.

the whole city is flooded and it hasnt even started yet
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:19 PM
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1. Where, besides TX I'm assuming? nt
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:20 PM
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2. crystal bay or something i think..
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:28 PM
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17. Crystal Beach, and update: there are 3 people on a roof across
the street from the church group, and it's on Bolivar Peninsula, per my DH. :scared: And what's the smilie for dumb?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:54 PM
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33. .
:dunce:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:21 PM
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3. I was just thinking about you...
...and there you are!

I hope you are doing well.

Did your hubby come home?

Stay safe and keep in touch here, if you're able. Many DUers are thinking
about you, I'm sure.

:)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:25 PM
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15. He's been home all day, checking the local channels. The winds
are getting 'really' strong here. I haven't seen any big things flying by luckily/yet. Some assholes are shooting off fireworks. When it gets dark, I think I'm hanging up going outside; I have this vision of someone's head being lobbed off from flying metal. (I think that every time I see an idiotic reporter outside in a hurricane-it's gonna happen)
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:21 PM
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4. Well let's hope they stay safe
Doesn't sound too safe to be on a roof during a hurricane, but what do I know? Anyway, I hope they survive.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:21 PM
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5. Could you mention where they are?
I've had the weather channel on since 8 this morning, and the meteorologists have been freaking out since then.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:22 PM
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6. Earlier this evening when they were talking about all the people
who decided to stay in Galveston, even though there's been a mandatory evacuation since yesterday, I told my husband, I know everybody thinks I'm a royal bitch for saying this, but if they're that damn stupid, I don't think anyone should risk their own lives to save them!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:46 PM
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29. But, I was looking through a slide show earlier, and saw
a 15 yr. old with a strange look on his face, and a Dad with his 13 yr. old son in the waves crashing across the sea wall in Galveston, along with pets that people left. I'm really heartbroken about the kids and animals who most likely will be victims of the older humans decisions. The same slide show also showed kids who are 3 and 4 yrs. old.

Kids and animals shouldn't have to die because of the older folks decisions, AFAIC. Sad to me.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:22 PM
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7. I hope their God is as good as their faith in him
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:53 PM
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32. With respect to what Charlie
Palin would argue that it's god's will and people who ignore advice based on reality and head for church clearly share her unscientific approach to life. Good luck people - I hope you make it although I'm not hopeful.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:16 AM
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49. reminds me of this parable.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:22 PM
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8. The earlier reports said there would be no helicopter rescues after 9pm tonight.
Not sure if that means 9pm east coast time, 9pm Texas time. The surge is still a few hours out yet. Lets just say it doesn't look good for these people. But I will keep them in my prayers.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:24 PM
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11. It's OK They are Rapture Ready n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:29 PM
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18.  Since when is indifference to people in need a progressive value?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:31 PM by dmordue
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:26 PM
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16. I think the CG is done with any kind of rescuing til tomorrow.
The winds are wicked.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:36 PM
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24. Yeah I just saw a report saying the Coast Guard has stopped all rescues until after it passes
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:22 PM
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9. They're trapped because the water is so high...
...that it drove them to the roof?

All ready?

Geez, that is ominous.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:24 PM
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10. Were they praying for some mythological creature to come save them? n/t
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:24 PM
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12. I Am Amazed By The Numbers Riding It Out
I have been told that a number evacuated for Rita and found the roads to crowded so they did not want to bother.

I hope we don't wake up to a disaster in the morning.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:34 PM
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23,000 people are still in Galveston. 23,000. A lot of people are gonna die tonight.
Those people on the church roof will die if they stay out there.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:38 PM
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25. I'm afraid it's too late to help those people.
It's too windy for airlift and if the ground is flooded, no vehicles can get through. We'll just have to wait 'til the morning to find out the true story on what's happening.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:24 PM
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13. It's a tough lesson, but i guess they learned something about god today.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:25 PM
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14. Where is your god now?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:35 PM
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21. Paging Sarah Palin...Sarah Palin...
She knows what God's plan is, right?

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:33 PM
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19. I can't help but wonder
if any of these people were amongst those praying for rain a few weeks back (you know, during the DNC).

Yeah I'm cynical to a horrific degree.

If not, well, I hope they manage. If so, I also hope they manage, but I hope they sort of get the irony too.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:34 PM
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20. "or even confirm it"
I beleive is the optimum phrase in that statement
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:35 PM
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22. its now been confirmed and its also confirmed that they cant be helped.
just sayin..
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:38 PM
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26. Thanx for the update
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:36 PM
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23. Wow, this shit is crazy
Did they learn nothing from Katrina...geez

I'm not looking forward to hearing this 'certain death count'.


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:42 PM
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27. Well, I hope that they somehow make it through the night
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:46 PM by undeterred
it helps to have faith and to have a group.

There was a story recently about a man and his autistic son who were lost in the ocean- the man had a religious medal on his chest - the two became separated and were in the water for hours overnight. The man was picked up in the morning only because of a religious medal on his chest which reflected the sun. After a few hours his teenaged autistic child was picked up- he had no fear of death because he is incapable of understanding it, so he didn't become exhausted.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:46 PM
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28. Jesus can't save them now.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:49 PM
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30. I doubt they'll be there for the night
When the wind and rain pick up, they may well be killed or injured. I doubt that the roof will hold. I hope they survive.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:50 PM
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31. You just can't make this shit up, can you?
:wtf:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:54 PM
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34. They may be raptured when the roof flies off
They will be done. I swear people are unbelievably stupid.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:30 PM
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47. I wonder how they'd interpret that
God telling them to fuck off?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:55 PM
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35. I hope they make it - Come on people, wishing ill will on these people is disgusting
Yes, they are crazy for staying (if they were able to evac) and yes, their belief system and world view is strange and in my opinion, crazy, but these are human beings. I dont' give a damn what their religion, race, sexual orientation, political affliation, etc. are - they deserve mercy and best wishes from any decent, civil human being.

Sure, they might not give the same consideration to many who they condemn, but it doesn't mean we have to stoop to that level. Holy shit, this stuff isn't even funny and I'm appalled that many are making fun of these people.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:56 PM
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36. I worry about the children especially.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:02 PM
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37. Thanks. That needed to be said. n/t
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:06 PM
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38. No thanks necessary - I am tough on religion and fundamentalists, but this is absurd
I understand many peoples disdain for many of their actions, but this isn't the time to be laughing at these people and their predicament.

To be laughing at these people, I just can't describe it. It's the same thing as Freepers laughing at the "colored folk" stuck on their roofs during Katrina. Classless and downright pathetic.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:20 PM
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44. Yeah, I've been known to mock fundies, but now isn't really the time...
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:39 PM
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46. A perfect analogy. How soon we forget.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:21 PM
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39. Mercy and best wishes, we owe them that. And, they could be homeless or impaired.
But, you are quite correct, it doesn't matter who they are.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:01 PM
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42. I don't think it's funny at all.
How many rescue workers are going to have to put their lives on the line to get them out?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:11 PM
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43. There are no rescues tonight - period. Until the storm clears the area.
I agree, they are putting not only themselves, but rescuers in severe danger. But that's what rescuers do and if I were a rescuer, I don't care what they are - they deserve to be rescued and saved from this thing. No life - not matter how much we hate them or despise their values - is worth sacrificing like this.

We don't know for sure if they are fundys or perhaps just a couple church-goers who stayed behind to help shelter others. Regardless, it doesn't matter.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:24 PM
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40. Holy crap! Unbelievable. Were they making human sacrifices?
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:42 PM
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41. I would reserve judgement.
Even though they wouldn't hesitate to judge us. They may have any number of reasons for being on a church roof, would we be making fun of these people if they were on a school roof?

I wouldn't hesitate to save a drowning fundie if I could, even if all I had to do was turn my back and no one would ever know. They might not do the same for me, but that's their loss. Having to live with that contempt in your heart is an everyday punishment.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:32 PM
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45. Though the situation isn't funny, I can't help but think of this joke....
A religious man is on top of a roof during a great flood. A man comes by in a boat and says "get in, get in!" The religous man replies, " no I have faith in God, he will grant me a miracle."

Later the water is up to his waist and another boat comes by and the guy tells him to get in again. He responds that he has faith in god and god will give him a miracle. With the water at about chest high, another boat comes to rescue him, but he turns down the offer again cause "God will grant him a miracle."

With the water at chin high, a helicopter throws down a ladder and they tell him to get in, mumbling with the water in his mouth, he again turns down the request for help for the faith of God. He arrives at the gates of heaven with broken faith and says to Peter, I thought God would grand me a miracle and I have been let down." St. Peter chuckles and responds, "I don't know what you're complaining about, we sent you three boats and a helicopter."
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:55 PM
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48. I was just thinking of that one myself.
I don't understand these people who stayed, especially on Galveston. I hope they are OK and they make it through this, but I'm not very hopeful.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:20 AM
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50. Sad, because it was so preventable.
I live 4 miles from the Florida coast, and I am prepared to leave at any moment.
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jedex Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:56 AM
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51. Pray you sinners!
You know God is punishing you for your sins! REPENT!! That'll help! Pray more! God loves you! That is why he lets people die as they are praying! Fools! Keep believing in your stupid fairy tale religion!
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