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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:05 PM
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See how it's done - Perry restricts airspace
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 05:06 PM by malaise
over Galveston so there will be no NOLA type coverage. Of course, since yesterday the FEMA man has already told the fawning corporate media not to show any bodies. They made one mistake though - I saw two white people arrested for looting.

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Lebam in LA Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:11 PM
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1. MSNBC has helicopter views now
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:17 PM
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3. They have been told they cannot cover Galveston Bay
They don't want you to see people on roofs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:50 PM
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7. I can't find a working web cam for Galveston Bay. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:03 PM
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9. That seems possible since there is no power
but Bushco and Perry have no intention of NOLA type coverage particularly when this time the people won't fit the stereotype.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:12 PM
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14. Well on KHOU,
they have been showing heliocopter footage of Galveston Bay.

Direct TV channel 361
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:38 PM
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16. Just the coastguard - they said the airspace is closed
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:12 PM
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2. Perry also closed down Galveston except to emergency workers.
Yeah, we see how it's done.
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io-solip Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:19 PM
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4. First I heard of this but governors don't have that kind of authority.
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 05:22 PM by io-solip
I suppose he might have gotten Dumbya to have the FAA do it though...

edit: Here's the text from the TFR...they can't even begin to hope to enforce this

Text of TFR:
******CAUTION: This TFR Overlay Display System (TODS) is updated Monday - Friday 1200-2000 UTC. CONFIRM DATA CURRENCY THROUGH ALTERNATE SOURCES AT OTHER TIMES. For interpretation of this TFR contact your local FSS.******


!FDC 8/8051 ZHU PART 1 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS TEXAS AND LOUISIANA
COASTLINE.
THIS NOTAM REPLACES NOTAM 8/8038 DUE TO CHANGE IN CONTACT
INFORMATION. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO
14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(1) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN
EFFECT TO PROVIDE
A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR DISASTER RESPONSE AND RELIEF
OPERATIONS. WITHIN AN AREA BOUNDED BY 303248N/0932824W OR THE LAKE
CHARLES /LCH/ VORTAC 315 DEGREE RADIAL AT 30.9 NM 303100N/0924400W TO
LAKE CHARLES /LCH/ VORTAC 034 DEGREE RADIAL AT 29.6 NM TO
290531N/0924708W OR THE WHITE LAKE /LLA/ VOR/D
ME 208 DEGREE RADIAL AT
40.4 NM TO 290858N/0935348W OR THE SABINE PASS /SBI/ VOR/DME 160
DEGREE RADIAL AT 33 NM TO 275108N/0961048W OR THE PALACIOS /PSX/
VORTAC 165 DEGREE RADIAL AT 55 NM TO 290023N/0972552W OR THE VICTORIA
/VCT/ VOR/DME 279 DEGREE RADIAL AT 24.6 NM TO 301719N/0960330W OR
TH
E TNV VORTAC TO POINT OF BEGINNING UP TO AND INCLUDING 5000 FT
MSL
ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AIRSPACE DEFINED ABOVE ARE
PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR APPROVED FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL AGENCY, AND
MILITARY AIRCRAFT CONDUCTING EVACUATION, SEARCH AND RESCUE (SAR), AIR
AMBULANCE, CRITICAL SUPPLY
, SURVEY AND IMAGING, LAW ENFORCEMENT,
REFUELING, COMMAND AND CONTROL (C2), AND OTHER AIR MISSIONS DIRECTLY
END PART 1 OF 4

!FDC 8/8051 ZHU PART 2 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS TEXAS AND LOUISIANA
COASTLINE.
SUPPORTING DISASTER RESPONSE AND RELIEF OPERATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH
THE PROCEDURES
INDICATED BELOW. FLIGHT OPERATIONS DIRECTLY
SUPPORTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE (INCLUDING OIL PLATFORMS,
RAILWAYS, AIRPORTS, ELECTRICAL UTILITIES, ETC) MAY ALSO BE AUTHORIZED
IN THE DEFINED AIRSPACE IF APPROVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
PROCEDURES INDICATED BELOW.
ALL NON SAR CIVILIAN AND MILIT
ARY (BOTH DOD AND NATIONAL GUARD)
AIRCRAFT/UNITS REQUESTING TO OPERATE WITHIN THE DEFINED AIRSPACE MUST
CONTACT THE FAA RECOVERY DESK AT 703-925-3011 OR 866-654-2005, PRIOR
TO DEPARTURE TO OBTAIN APPROVAL.
ALL SAR AIRCRAFT/UNITS (INCLUDING LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL)
REQUESTING TO OPERATE WITH
IN THE DEFINED AIRSPACE MUST CONTACT THE
FAA RECOVERY DESK AT 703-925-3011 OR 866-654-2005, PRIOR TO DEPARTURE
TO OBTAIN APPROVAL.
APPROVED RESPONSE AIRCRAFT, EXCEPT THOSE TRANSITING THE DEFINED
AIRSPACE DIRECTLY TO OR FROM DESIGNATED AIRPORTS, SHALL OPERATE
WITHIN THE DEFINED AIRSPACE AT AL
TITUDES INDICATED BELOW ASSIGNED BY
END PART 2 OF 4

!FDC 8/8051 ZHU PART 3 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS TEXAS AND LOUISIANA
COASTLINE.
MISSION TYPE UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED BY AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC).
NON-SAR FIXED WING AIRCRAFT OPERATE BETWEEN 3000 AND 5000 FEET MSL.
SPECIFICALLY, AIRCR
AFT HEADING 360 TO 179 DEGREES OPERATE AT 3500
FEET MSL, AIRCRAFT HEADING 180 TO 359 DEGREES OPERATE AT 4500 FEET
MSL.
NON-SAR ROTOR WING AIRCRAFT OPERATE BETWEEN 2000 AND 3000 FEET MSL.
SPECIFICALLY, AIRCRAFT HEADING 360 TO 179 DEGREES OPERATE AT 2100 TO
2500 FEET MSL, AIRCRAFT HEADING 18
0 TO 359 DEGREES OPERATE AT 2600 TO
2900 FEET MSL.
LOW ALTITUDE REFUELING AIRCRAFT OPERATE BETWEEN 1000 AND 2000 FEET
MSL. SPECIFICALLY, AIRCRAFT HEADING 360 TO 179 DEGREES OPERATE AT
1100 TO 1500 FEET MSL, AIRCRAFT HEADING 180 TO 359 DEGREES OPERATE AT
1600 TO 1900 FEET MSL.
SAR ROTOR WI
NG AIRCRAFT TRANSITION THE DEFINED AIRSPACE BETWEEN 600
AND 1000 FEET MSL. SPECIFICALLY, AIRCRAFT HEADING 360 TO 179 DEGREES
OPERATE AT 600 TO 700 FEET MSL, AIRCRAFT OPERATING 180 TO 359
END PART 3 OF 4

!FDC 8/8051 ZHU PART 4 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS TEXAS AND LOUISIANA
COASTLINE.
DEGRE
ES OPERATE AT 800-900 FEET MSL.
SAR AIRCRAFT ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN SEARCH AND RECOVERY EFFORTS OPERATE
BETWEEN SURFACE AND 500 FEET MSL WITH A COUNTER CLOCKWISE FLOW.
ACTIVE SLING LOAD ROTOR WING AIRCRAFT OPERATE BETWEEN SURFACE AND 500
FEET MSL WITH A COUNTER CLOCKWISE FLOW.
ALL AIRCRAFT OPER
ATING WITHIN THE DEFINED AIRSPACE ARE REQUIRED TO
OPERATE UNDER VISUAL FLIGHT RULES (VFR) UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED BY
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) AND CONTACT ARGUS1 ON FREQUENCY 134.45 OR
284.0 FOR AIRSPACE ADVISORIES.
FAA RECOVERY DESK PHONE 703-925-3011/866-654-2005 IS THE FAA
COORDINATION
FACILITY.
END PART 4 OF 4


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:21 PM
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5. Yep or Chertoff or any of the fascists
Control message because it looks like it is not only NOLA residents who choose to stay home
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:01 PM
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8. You will not see those breached levees in Louisiana either
and of course you're not allowed to see dead soldiers returning from Iraq. This is damn madness.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:41 PM
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6. Anyone who doesn't see the BushCo hand here needs an eye exam.
And anyone who still trusts these bastards with ordinary people needs a reality check.

:(
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:04 PM
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11. Bingo
and the media hacks will go along with it.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:03 PM
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10. So, who will uncover what's going on? n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:06 PM
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12. Remember Jim Cantore of the Weather Channel said
scores of people are missing. Truth will out.
The bottom line is that a lot of people will always refuse to leave their homes, and for several reasons.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:42 PM
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17. One common reason given for not leaving is due to their traumatic experience with Rita
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 06:42 PM by Dover
where the real disaster was the evacuation.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:45 PM
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19. Indeed
Additionally lots of people do not like leaving their comfort zone - regardless of the outcome.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:12 PM
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13. Looks like one group didn't get the meme
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:18 PM
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15. I'm going to keep an eye on the indy media for now, too. n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:43 PM
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18. Skelator is on the job...


Ike caused "a few deaths," surges: Chertoff

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said there were unconfirmed reports of "a few deaths" from Hurricane Ike, which slammed the Texas coast on Saturday.

"We have already heard some initial reports of a few deaths," he said. "Obviously one death is more than we want to hear about."

...

He refused to say whether he expected the death toll to rise.

"I don't want to speculate," Chertoff said. "If someone stayed in an area predicted to be largely flooded, they put their lives at risk."

....

http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1340091320080913

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:46 PM
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20. They all know since afternoon
Keep the press out!!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:16 PM
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21. I think that is so the rescue..
people don't have to worry about air traffic.
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