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Sat Sep-13-08 09:28 PM
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a challenge to you all as i battle sobriety and a failed relationship |
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if I can write weekly,with all my shit going on...so can you.Now is the time to make our platform chrystal-clear.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:30 PM
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1. I battled sobriety. It was a tough fight, but I beat it. |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:34 PM
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2. It gets easier, I am a month and a day into my 24th year sober. |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:37 PM
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3. Bout a month shy of 20 myself |
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I think most of my reasons for drinking went with the drinking.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:07 PM
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19. This current administration could drive a guy who didn't know |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:59 PM
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Sat Sep-13-08 11:12 PM
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52. when i leave my SO..hopefully my reason will leave.too |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:43 PM
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34. i know,,tonight is hard |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:40 PM
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but I swear if John McCain is selected I might have to re-think the whole thing. I volunteer at my Dem Headquarters. I think there are more of us than we realize who are planting the seeds that will bloom on November 4th.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:43 PM
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6. good for you w8lifting lady |
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one day at a time. one donation at a time. one voter registration at a time. i was told that people are in our lives for different reasons and different seasons. some relationships aren't meant to be forever but a stepping stone and a learning experience. don't lose the lesson. every sober day you grow as strong on the inside as you are on the outside.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:23 PM
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25. everyone thinks they are above this.. |
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Sun Sep-14-08 08:02 PM
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65. no my friend, there but for the grace of God go i. |
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i have lived a very crazy life. i have lost some friends and relatives along the way. i now try to help through my job-instead of standing on the sidelines watching. we all have our own journey none are exactly the same. i have let go of most things and substituted food. so i have my own battle, i just wanted to encourage you and let you know you are not alone out here. every now and then encourage someone else. it feels good.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:44 PM
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7. Don't battle sobriety. Embrace it, because you deserve it. |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:45 PM
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8. thank you..i need friends tonight |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:50 PM
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Last March 27th.
All I can suggest is keep very fresh in your mind all the reasons you have chosen sobriety, all the *feelings*. Relive the misery of hangovers, the feeling sick all the time, the depression, and yes, that nagging guilt you kept having to beat down that you had become the last thing you ever wanted to be. Revisit it. Compare it to your life as it improves, little by little. Be brutally honest with yourself and others about it.
Before you know it, not drinking will be the most normal thing in the world, and you will look back and wonder what you ever saw in drinking.
One more thing: take great and constant pride in it. If you relapse, big deal. Every chronic illness has relapses. So you start again and not drink again. Don't worry about coins and AA birthdays and counting of says, weeks, months and years. The only thing that counts is the day of not drinking that you are living in, right now.
As for sobriety? That is not just "not drinking". I have this cockeyed theory that we, us guys who stopped, just practice not drinking and getting our heads back on somewhat straight. As for sobriety, well, that might be something others see in you, as you wise up. Like I said, just a theory.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:51 PM
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10. I hope you win your battle and find someone that matches you well |
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I am about to get sober. I have been drinking almost everyday for that last 10 years, went to the store earlier today and bought an 18 pack of beer and a 12 pack of beer just because I didn't feel like driving 20 miles to buy a liter of vodka at the closest liquor store. Now that I am in my 30's I can feel the toll it is taking on my body and the hangovers have starting hurting really bad in the last year or so. Alcoholism has cost me several relationships that should have worked and the reason they didn't was my love of alcohol. By some miracle I have never been picked up DUI, could have been thousands of times, but I have decided this weekend it ends.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:54 PM
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we are traveling on the same path
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:54 PM
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Try AA even if you can't stomach the god part of it. It will help.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:58 PM
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14. aa is on my agenda..but not locally |
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they are as right wing as they come
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:37 PM
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32. I've considered AA many times |
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I want to go to meetings of some type so bad and just talk with people about my addiction and listen to them talk about theirs. That support is what I really think I need to do this, I just need to go plain and simple.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:45 PM
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35. me.too...wish you lived near me |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:54 PM
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41. My biggest fear is walking into a meeting alone and having to introduce myself |
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I give presentations at work to groups of people, meet with corporate officers and government offcials all the time. But the thought of walking into an AA meeting and having to introduce myself as an alcoholic literally turns my stomach.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:57 PM
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45. i wish i could go with you |
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i'll be with you in spirit
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Sat Sep-13-08 11:01 PM
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You do not have to do that at first if it is hard for you, some meetings are what is referred to as "closed" these meetings require that you are an admitted alcoholic, but most are not that way , you can go there, take a seat, drink coffee and not say anything at all if you choose not to, you can tell them your name and admitt to your disease or you can tell them your name and say you are just visiting, you do not have to admit to anything at all unless you so choose.. if you can go with an open mind and listen and be honest with yourself that is the first big step you need to make, it is worth it =, you will find a new life. Believe me I speak from experience, if anyone here would like to continue any of this conversation more privately I am more than willing to do so...:grouphug:
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Sat Sep-13-08 11:05 PM
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:54 PM
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Go Go Go, they will welcome you with open arms, they all needed help and still do and no matter what you think you are needed there also.....Do whatever it takes..It is definitely worth it
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:59 PM
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and away from my man.i can get the help i need
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Sun Sep-14-08 07:39 AM
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63. A word of encouragement |
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My husband just his his one year mark this week. He's been going to AA, and it's done a lot for him. He's not overly involved, and he's a little shy. But just the act of going to meetings and listening to other people speak has been extraordinarily cathartic and helpful to him.
Good luck in your paths as you search for something to help you. I wish you the best of luck. It's a tough road. I know through experience. Watching a loved one struggle with addictions is painful, and I know it's a battle you will win if you are determined to beat it!
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:11 PM
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20. I've been sober since 1986. I did get picked up 3 times, and the |
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last time the court ordered me to attend AA meetings. Now, I hated those phony meetings with a passion. I hated spending an hour in a room with strangers and all we talked about was drinking; made no sense to me. I hated those meetings so much I quit drinking - well, that's not entirely true. What I did was make up my mind that when I went out with friends I was not going to get drunk, whereas when I went out before the whole idea was to get drunk. It worked for me. Now, when someone asks me how I quit drinking I always say "AA". ha Believe it or not it gets easier and after awhile I just really forgot about drinking. Good luck to you guys.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:29 PM
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30. I have finally realized everything I do centers around alcohol |
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I drink when I play golf, I drink when I go fishing, I drink when I go out to dinner, I drink when I watch TV, I drink when I look at the internet, I drink when I am around my family and they all drink as well. The only thing I adjust my drinking schedule for is work and I have even drank on the clock before. If I do go a couple of days without drinking nothing feels "right" or fun, life just seems boring. I will probably have to find new hobbies and friends because everything I do or associate with now I will always tie to alcohol.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:40 PM
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when i'm stressed-the alcohol comes out...and i act an ass
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:51 PM
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I had my last drink on March 24th 1984, in the process I had to give up all of my friends (really was not my choice but they would not have anything to do with someone who didn't drink) Also it is always best to stay away from those situations...regardless of what some say about AA if you can fake it you can make it.... if you can do it alone go for it, most can't and there is help there if you can honestly ask for it.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:54 PM
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42. I am leaving my boyfriend of 4 years |
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it's hard..he's making me chose between my son and him...no contest
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Sun Sep-14-08 12:26 AM
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60. You might be at the point that I finally got to. I just kind of got tired |
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of it; of the problems it caused; of being sick so much. I think getting older had a lot to do with that, and the fact that there were 5 of us who always got drunk together and we all quit drinking about the same time, except for one person. I do have to tell you that I had more fun during those years than I do now, but, Hell, I'm 65 yrs old and I know I couldn't keep up with myself now. I don't really miss it, but I wouldn't trade those years for anything, so don't beat yourself up too much cause I think one day you'll just decide "ok, that's enough" and it will be. i did make a conscious effort not to be around drinkers very much but since all my friends quit too that wasn't that hard. I never drank at home so that wasn't a big deal, but I can see where it would be if you do. I wish you all the luck in the world - I know it's hard cause I can't for the life of me quit smoking and I know it will kill me one day. I don't pass judgment on people cause I know I'm also weak in some respects, so don't judge yourself too harshly either. Hang in there - I do think it will pass.
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Sun Sep-14-08 07:43 AM
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64. You are definitely not alone |
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that is how people arrange their lives, and I know many people who still live their lives this way. You have seen that it's problematic for you, and that is a HUGE step. Madville, you are very honest with yourself, and that is a huge barrier that many people need to cross. Hugs and good luck! There are people here willing to speak to you who have their own personal experience in AA, and please take them up on it.
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If you mess up today, start fresh tomorrow.
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16. I wish you the best. Keep believing in yourself and you can do it. |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:04 PM
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17. thank you=your words of support mean the world to me! |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:14 PM
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I haven't battled sobriety, but I have battled clinical depression. Sometimes I made it one HOUR at at time. Whew, it can really be tough.
But you know what, it really makes us so much more empathetic to the suffering of other people in this world and so much more understanding of their needs...something that is really needed in this election.
I totally salute you, and keep your chin up. :)
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:15 PM
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22. thanks,man we have to stick together |
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I stopped drinking and smoking. Several times. The first time I felt like I should do it. And it was IMPOSSIBLE.
But when I decided that I wanted to feel good. Genuinely good. No hangovers. A clear head. It was EASY. I still can't believe it. But being clear and clean feels really nice.
Funny you'd post this. All day I've been agonizing over the thought of a Palin presidency. That's what I call it. And I've been picking up the phone and demanding people I know to register. I have one friend who is a stubborn ass. And I have not called him out of the difficulty I know it will be. But it's a bit like your post.
I honor your efforts and commitment. You're going to do fine. And I'm going to put time into communicating one way or another.
As for sobriety, I never could figure out what they meant by one day at a time. I'm more like one minute at a time. But to be honest, the one thing that worked for me literally was minute to minute. And it was this- when a thought comes into my head, I defer it. I'll smoke that bonghit in a minute. I'll have a beer in a half hour. And that works for a few minutes. Always keeping in mind that a clear head feels good. And believe me, once you're sober for a year, you'll wonder just how your body could possibly take that beating. It can't.
Be strong.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:20 PM
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24. thank you all for recing this..no one needs to feel alone |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:27 PM
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Your letters inspire many DUers.
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the anonymity that is the internet makes it difficult.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:25 PM
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26. I try not to see any relationship as a failure. |
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They all offer the opportunity to look at myself and to grow. Looking back, every "failed" relationship in my life hurt at the time, but ultimately, those relationships always made me a better person. Always.
Failure is a great teacher.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:28 PM
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28. You are truly giving a full measure of devotion! |
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Brava! Your strength and forebearance is an inspiration! Keep going - we NEED you.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:30 PM
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31. man,,I need to be needed |
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Sun Sep-14-08 12:22 AM
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59. I KNOW how you feel sweety, |
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I've been alone for 6 yrs. It's not that I get "lonely", it's that I miss being someones darlin' !!! Take heart though, your child needs you, and that will get you through. If it weren't for my kids, and their kids, life wouldn't be worth the effort for me.:hug:
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:45 PM
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Fight the good fight and win..... will have 25 years next March.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:46 PM
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37. thank you for the hope! |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:51 PM
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38. thank you DU...you have given me strength |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:53 PM
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40. I just want to say that you rock. |
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Keep fighting the good fight.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:56 PM
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44. I think that's what strength is. |
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Carrying on no matter what else is going on in your head.
Strength doesn't mean you don't need support though. A lot of times, strength means you can reach out for it when you need it.
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I respect you so much.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:58 PM
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46. I know,but there are so many here who see me as the enemy! |
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I hope not. I don't see how.
For my part, never.
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51. I;ll kick this...there are a lot of us lost-looking for like-minded people |
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gotta work tomorrow tending the ill.please carry on the sentiment
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Sat Sep-13-08 11:26 PM
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56. I wish you strength and peace in your sobriety. |
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58. BTW=allow me to kick for the concerned citizens |
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Sun Sep-14-08 06:34 AM
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61. W8ty, don't fight it. Let it help you to regain your sanity. |
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I'm 20 1/2, more or less. My life began then and gets better and better, despite serious financial issues, a marriage and divorce, etc.
Get a sponsor, someone to talk to. AA really helped me for my first three months. I did 2 every day. Have rarely gone back since but do a lot of talking to friends and a professional on occasion.
Good luck!
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Recency Bias is the sometimes overwhelming belief that what is being experienced at the moment will continue on forever. With the exception of death, all other experiences are transitory.
What positive emotional experience do you believe is waiting for you in the bottom of that glass? Most likely it is merely freedom from fear, loneliness, or boredom. The biggest mistakes in life happen when we compromise our values simply to satisfy a spurious and transitory urge.
edit: spelling error
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66. damn i love this place. |
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you people on du never cease to amaze me with the flat out love and support that is given so freely here. this is why du is my home.
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