Pakistan order to kill US invaders

[bemildred]

KEY corps commanders of Pakistan's 600,000-strong army issued orders last night to retaliate against "invading" US forces that enter the country to attack militant targets.

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What amounts to a dramatic order to "kill the invaders", as one senior officer put it last night, was disclosed after the commanders - who control the army's deployments at divisional level - met at their headquarters in the garrison city of Rawalpindi under the chairmanship of army chief and former ISI spy agency boss Ashfaq Kayani.

Leading English-language newspaper The News warned in an editorial that the US determination to attack targets inside Pakistan was likely to be "the best recruiting sergeant that the extremists ever had", with even "moderates" outraged by it.

The "retaliate and kill" order came amid reports of unprecedentedly fierce fighting in the Bajaur Agency of Pakistan's tribal areas, an al-Qa'ida stronghold frequently mentioned as the most likely lair of Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24336245-2703,00.html

[Hubert Flottz]

1. What would our armed forces do, if soldiers from another country

invaded America?

[RC]

2. To answer your question, not much.

Out military is tied up everywhere except here. Most all we have left here are the nuclear options. Scared yet?

[Hubert Flottz]

3. If you're scared the terrorists have won...

The terrorists of every stripe, want you to be scared. They depend upon your fear to subjugate you. We can't let ANY of the would-be terrorists win.

ter·ror·ism –noun,

1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. More...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

[RC]

5. You do not understand. The terrorist are in our own government!

They are our own government. Being scared or afraid has nothing to do with it. When we look in caves and Cheney defined terrorist countries, we are being distracted from where the real problem is.

[Hubert Flottz]

7. You bet I understand...

It's why I posted that definition of terrorism.

[RC]

9. So what should we do if we are not afraid? Go shopping?

Yeah, like that has worked so well the past 7 years.

[Hubert Flottz]

10. "So what should we do?"

Depends on what you are shopping for I guess...

Do the best you can do to take care of yourself and your loved ones, because you see how the government as it stands today, will "Take Care Of You"...If you don't see, go look at those pictures of New Orleans.

You can depend on the GOP to go right on scaring you, lying to you and cheating you if the voters don't wake up.

[ensho]

13. Bingo! our neo cons are the terrorists

nt

[bvar22]

11. The Terrorists have already WON

*US Treasury depleted

*Military Forces depleted and scattered/tied down in devastatingly expensive and futile "Occupations"

*Sympathy of the World on their side

*US Alliances destroyed or severly stressed

*Recruiting and Enrollment in their ranks at an all time high

*US transformed into a Police State

*The illusions of "freedom", "democracy", and "open elections" in the US destroyed


It is important to note that the "Terrorists" are not responsible for these destructions.
The reactionary/militant/fascist Republican Party ARE responsible.

The Democratic Party (Bill Clinton) captured, prosecuted, and jailed ALL the terrorists involved in the first WTC bombing without destroying our Constitution, destroying our military, spending $1Trillion Dollars, or killing a single civilian.

[Hubert Flottz]

12. I couldn't agree more.

The cowards and chickenhawks let the PNAC stampede the entire country.

[Igel]

15. What would our attitude be if there were groups in Arizona

and Texas that regularly went across the border into Mexico to take over villages and towns with a view to overthrowing the government and setting up one to their liking? That bomb UN convoys from time to time, and fight Mexicans--albeit with the acquiescence of some citizens there, and the support of others?

And what would our view be if * said that they're untouchable--we're not able to patrol the areas but claim we have full sovereignty and control over the areas, and will fight any Mexican forces that try to stop the killing and incursions?

By default, * would be defending those attacking Mexico unless he does everything possible to stop them. This is the reason hot pursuit rules are both generally accepted and generally decried. However, "hot pursuit" doesn't always provide the forces needed.

The appropriate thing to do is to ID some bases with impeccable intelligence, and tell Kayani. Give him a week. If he doesn't do anything, then you can have fun. He's impotent; cowardly; dishonorable; doesn't care of Pashtuns or Muslims are killed; is more concerned only with Pakistanis, not with his deen or law. Like I said, have fun with selected leaks from State, from the military, from the WH. Shame the bastard into deep humiliation, cow-pie him in the face, and give him a way out: He claims Pakistan has sovereignty, fine--make it operational or stop the duplicitous, jingoistic attempts to preserve hollow, vacuous pride. And phrase it in such a way that (1) it's culturally appropriate and sticks; and (2) it splats all over Zardari, who's every bit as vainglorious as Kayani.

[Hubert Flottz]

16. Bush and gang should have put the squeeze on the Pakistanis as

soon as Bin Laden's crew crossed the border into Pakistan. Now the world sees this belated new surge to catch Bin Laden, for what it really is...a political crock of shit, just like the trumped up invasion of Iraq was.(Karl needed a "War President" to win in 2004) The difference between goading Pakistan and goading Iraq, is that Pakistan really does have "WMD". No ICBMs maybe, but still enough firepower to do some serious damage in that part of the world. Damage that could spread around the planet in a short time.

Bush's "Political Capital" is shot. Our "Rapid Response" military is crippled and about used up. If somebody calls the PNAC's bluff right now, the weak underbelly of America will be exposed for the world to see. Russia is pissed...our friends are few and far between.

Bill Frist and the GOP cronies in the Senate threw around the term "Nuclear Option" laughingly a few years back, but we are going to get to the point soon IMO, where the for real "Nuclear Option" might be the only thing we have left to depend upon to keep us "safe."

The Bush Doctrine was and still is, a recipe for disaster. Goes against EVERYTHING that America has stood for, for over 200 years. The type of path that too many despots have started down in the past and ended up with a blood drenched country in ruin.

Bush wasn't worried about catching Bin Laden for all these years, but now it suddenly matters again. Don't tell me that Karl and the PNAC aren't still pulling all the strings at 1600 Pa. Ave.

[whistle]

4. kicking

[tpsbmam]

6. K&R. Lets see how many more countries we can piss off.....

Cuz apparently we haven't pissed off enough yet. Unbelievable.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. It's a very complex situation. Listen to the BBC coverage here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/indepth/911_war_on_terror.shtml

[High Plains]

14. This is important stuff...

The Pashtun Uprising knows no borders. What a fucking mess we're getting into.