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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:25 PM
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If we the taxpayers bail out every moron financial house that needs it,
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 08:25 PM by cliffordu
What will the federal deficit be????

Infinity???
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:25 PM
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1. my student loans are past due. how about a bailout for me?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:26 PM
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2. I hear ya....They kept my tax refunds for 5 years....
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:15 PM
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7. How? Or should I say why?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:34 PM
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17. I turned into a street level drug addict and part time dish washer/cook/etc...
They just kept the tax refunds until I was paid up.

They'd call every time I get a phone and I'd tell them they couldn't get blood from a turnup, or carrot, or something.

I was a deadbeat.

Just like Lehmann Brothers, as it turns out.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:29 PM
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3. Ain't that the fucking truth.
If Bush really wants to help the economy, how about declaring a blanket student loan amnesty up to, say $20,000 per borrower. Can you imagine the jumpstart that would give the economy? If I suddenly didn't have to decide each month whether to buy food or to pay Sallie Mae, you can be sure that I'd be a mite more vigorous in my overall spending, as would countless others.

Nope--bailouts only work for well-placed assholes who profit hugely from multi-billion dollar "errors" and "restatements."
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:48 PM
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4. Yeah, infinity. There isn't that much money in the world, never mind in the US Treasury.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:49 PM
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5. I'm wondering if I can still live in the bush. Belize looks better all the time.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:20 PM
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11. It's like riding a bike.
I'm sure it will come right back to you. ;)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:25 PM
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12. lol. I bet it will....
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:51 PM
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6. Sometimes I wonder if we wouldn't be better off if we didn't bail out the banks.
Let the money changers get their own house in order without taxpayer's help or else any bank that is taking a bailout is no longer privately owned. It now becomes property of the taxpayers of this country.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 PM
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8. I just heard somebody on NPR estimate that cost at
$400 billion.

That's a bargain compared to an illegal, unnecessary colonial war, isn't it?
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:18 PM
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9. Mark my words.
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 09:21 PM by roamer65
The Fed and Treasury will have to monetize trillions of all this bad paper to recapitalize the banks. I am now with Bill Gross of PIMCO on this issue. A full scale banking failure is something we do not want to see. I would rather see 20%-30% inflation than a 50% unemployment rate.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:20 PM
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10. Lehman brothers was not bailed out
get your facts straight

THough it HAS failed.... and the reason... the same for 1929

Welcome to that AGAIN
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:25 PM
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13. At a certain point, won't the other banks left standing be unable to buy
the others, or be unwilling to risk it?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:29 PM
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15. Why do you think Lehman failed?
read the post, NOBODY was willing to take on the bad debt they had

The reason... why you don't mix real estate with other forms of investing
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:33 PM
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16. It sounds like a pyramid scheme starting to unravel.
:(
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:35 PM
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18. Not quite a pyramid scheme
what happened is that all the regulations put in place under FDR due to 1929... were removed starting in the 1990s

There was a reason why they were in place

The same thing that happened in 1929... 30-33 is happening all over again... for the same fundamental reasons


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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:36 PM
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20. No, but they were begging for it.
Somebody with the feds actually had the guts to tell them NO--can you believe it?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:39 PM
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21. Given the consequences to the world economy I am actually surprised
they were not bailed out

Look... not tomorrow but in the next few months the full effects of this will start to come to us
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:27 PM
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14. If we the taxpayers bail out every moron financial house that needs it we just might survive
this crises and live to see our children prosper again some day in the distant future. The government is us and the government has a purpose.

I hate subsidizing the foolish risk of these greed heads as much as you do but working families have been left in the lurch and are counting on some help!

None of this could have happened without the republican revolution of the early 90s and this is a democracy so guess what? WE are the government so WE are all in this together and WE will have to pull together to fix it.

The first best start would be to elect a Dem President and a congress with a large majority. Then we can finally get to work.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:35 PM
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19. Fock. Love the photo.
:rofl:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:04 PM
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22. Freepers still chafe at "welfare moms." But meanwhile, taxpayers are bailing these big-money firms.
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 10:10 PM by KrazyKat
While freepers chafe at the quaint cliche of "welfare moms," it doesn't appear to bother them that their beloved right-wing govt. is asking taxpayers to foot the bills for this chronic malfeasance. :grr:
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