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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:33 PM
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But what do all these bank failures mean?
My hubby and I are mid-thirties and have small 401Ks, several IRAs, investments, a little savings, etc. We are both students and are not working right now and we just don't know what any of this means (english and biology degrees did not prepare us for this)? What happens next? Are we supposed to move our money into bonds? Will everyone be calling their financial planners tomorrow? Do we need to get one?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:35 PM
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1. ? I would like to know...
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:37 PM
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2. Didn't Financial Planners Contribute To This Mess
Hard to predict where the chips may land now. The time to plan ahead was yesterday. Going to be very interesting.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:41 PM
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4. Not really. It was the wall street brokers who pushed the subprime mortgage mess
Of course some financial planners may have given their clients bad advice, and didn't diversify them

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:38 PM
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3. As long as you are diversified, don't worry. In fact it would be best not to do anything
with your accounts right now.

If you are nervous, you might want any new money going into your IRA's and 401Ks to sit in money markets until things stabilize

As long as your savings accounts are less than 100K per account you have nothing to worry about

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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:45 PM
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7. thank you
makes sense to just hold tight!
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:48 PM
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9. Unless Of Course McCain Gets Elected nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:53 PM
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12. It wouldn't matter, however mccain isn't going to get elected /nt
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:59 PM
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15. I Meant That In Response To "You Have Nothing To Worry About"
And I stick by it. While your advice is sound if somebody in charge is able to stabilize and turn the economy around, if McCain wins, all bets are off.

I'm with you as far as McCain winning but what about him stealing it? I still see that as a possibility.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:14 AM
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26. It depends what your time horizon is. The financial implosion has actually been going on for some
time now, and there is no question that the excess is in the process of unwinding

There is also no question that we are in a major recession, maybe worse, but assuming there won't be a nuclear war, I would say if you are young enough, you have enough time to recover

Incidently, if there is a nuclear war, it doesn't matter anyway

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:52 PM
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11. but isn't there the question...
...about what happens if there are multiple bank failures? The FDIC cannot
insure and pay for the failure of ever bank--if there is a complete meltdown.

I am not purporting to understand this complex situation. However, I duly
noted, when the last two big banks melted down--that a few media outlets
managed to report that saving these banks really stretched the FDIC coffers.

Is there any validity to this?

And yes, the treasury can always print loads of money to cover the FDIC deposits. However, wouldn't
this cause hyperinflation?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:59 PM
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16. What the FDIC is doing right now is moving insolvent bank accounts to banks
that are solvent

Not every bank is insolvent, and not every brokerage firm is going under

We already know there are about 100 banks on the feds list. They will spread this out over time

and yes it will cost the taxpayers something from this mess

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:41 PM
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5. You've got time for this to recover
now if you were retired... then worry
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:48 PM
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10. makes me worry for our
grandparents and parents set to retire in the next few years. it seems like the only thing to do is wait for tomorrow. (we do have a second bedroom with bunk beds and as long as we can pay the rent, we can put up our family members if need be.)

btw - i've been following your posts for months, and appreciate your insights!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:59 PM
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14. I worry about my 78 and 84 year old mom and dad
will be making some calls tomorrow

They don't need this shit
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:00 AM
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17. I would hope as they neared retirement age, they started moving more of their assets
to fixed income?

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:42 PM
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6. Everbank....
We have done very well w/ CD's.



BOTTOM LINE - get out of US currency.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:47 PM
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8. If It Gets Bad Enough It Will Be Felt Worldwide
But I see Cheney took your advice long ago.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:01 AM
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20. It is being felt worldwide /nt
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:02 AM
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21. Yes, it will be felt worldwide.
If you are not out now.......GET OUT.

I don't want to scare you.....


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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:01 AM
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18. Not necessarily /nt
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:08 AM
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25.  Happy Happy Joy
UH YEAH
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:57 PM
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13. thanks for everyone's comments
i'm sure a DU'er will do this when the dust settles, but it would be nice if someone can break all this down into dummy terms for those of us here who just don't understand what's going on... i'll try to read up on it more between studying for my upcoming tests. thanks, again, for DU'ers' help in all this mess.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:01 AM
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19. Pull it all out
bury 3/4 of it in coffee cans in the backyard. Stuff the rest into your matress.

But that's just me. I'm not convinced that's not the best investment strategy right now.

We did do something similar, though. We've got everything in cash accounts, guaranteed interest at a low interest rate. It's not making money but it's damn sure not losing any. If we'd done what the "financial advisor" wanted us to do in December last year, we'd probably be down 25% right now from that point. I told the guy my coffee can, matress strategy. He laughed too, and said, "but we're talking long term here". I told him that preserving the principle should be goal #1 right now. We agreed to disagree, turns out I was very right and a whole lot of other people are down.

we're 50's-ish.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:04 AM
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23. It all depends. If you need the money now, then by all means you should be in cash
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iiibbb Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:04 AM
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22. It means there will be opportunities...
... the market isn't going to go away... and it will rise again.

In the long run (and you're young enough) not much to worry about as long as you stay employed.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:06 AM
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24. You are absolutely right, "as long as you stay employed" /nt
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