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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:37 AM
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Bob Schieffer: A BIG fan of the truthiness!
On Face the Nation, Debbie Wasserman Schultz pointed out that Palin was LYING when she claimed to have visited Iraq. Scheiffer then said that Palin’s actions "have been alleged" to be less than her claim, but it’s up to the voters to decide “the truth.”

Uh... . . .

Bob! You don't get to vote on whether or not something is a LIE!!

gawd don't you just hate this 'liberal media'?

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:50 AM
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1. Since when did journalist decide it is not their job to report lies?
That is their role in the democracy.

Last night I read about David Books saying it wasn't a journalist job to uncover lies.


If we can't get them to do that all is lost: :banghead:
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:08 AM
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8. David Gregory doesn't think it's his job either...shame
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:20 AM
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18. None of 'em do. They have been corporatized.
With same creepy Mr.Rogers HR faux-fun iron fist in the velvet glove corproate will we've all (or 99% of us, including me) have been indoctrinated with.

As I have said numerous times before Bushie Propaganda has become "Conventional Wisdom".

Did you EVER think you'd live to see the day a VAST MAJORITY of "journalists" would feel that way?

Not unlike a plumber saying it's not his job to unclog toilets, just watch and comment on the overflow.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:02 AM
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22. Early in the Reagan Administration ....
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:53 AM
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2. Umm, Bob?
You're supposed to report the "truth," despite what David Gregory may think.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:55 AM
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3. They don't call him Bob for nothing.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:00 AM
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4. I guess they're telling us reality is subjective.
Sounds like Gramm's mental recession. So why bother with anachronistic cliches then, like a "Straight Talk Express"? Who the hell cares, from that pov? :shrug:

So if our whole economy's ripped off then, or 4,000 troops die in Iraq, it's debatable I suppose?

Maybe Bushco didn't really happen either. :crazy:

We're trying work with nitwits.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:02 AM
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5. Maybe we should take a vote on whether or not there are more
foreclosures than anytime since the depression?.. I sure would be relieved to find out that we get to decide that's not the truth..
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 08:52 AM
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15. It's the bastard child of Postmodernism and Neo-Conservatism.
"Reality" is what those in charge says it is. :crazy:

"We've always been at war with Eastasia" and all that...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:03 AM
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6. The 'greedia' haven't been interested in the truth
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 06:04 AM by malaise
for a very long time.

gr
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:07 AM
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7. The press is very afraid to play a referee
They think it's much more "balanced" to play this race as dueling talking points, as they did in 2004. "Republicans said this, Democrats responded with that"
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:18 AM
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9. Has the RW been "working the ref" so long that even the institutional
memory of the true function of "the fourth estate" been forgotten completely?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:41 AM
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19. No. The Fascists BOUGHT CONTROL of most broadcast media 'refs' in the 80s and 90s
and this nation has been living with the consequences of those purchases for over a decade.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 08:00 AM
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13. It's like one kid in school punches another, and both get suspended.
A cowardly crock of doublethink nonsense.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:17 AM
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23. Actually, It Was "He Said, She Said" Without Even The "She Said".
Note the well-orchestrated faux outrage enabled by the corporate media when Kerry said Mary Cheney was a (gasp!) lesbian.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:24 AM
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10. "mistakes made" "enhanced interrogation technique" "misspoke"
let the lie stand (*even cast doubt that a lie is a lie) and claim it's not your job to correct it...but rather it's up to the viewers..to decide what is fact and what is ficiton...then claim these same intentionally misinformed voters determine the "truth"

"no one could have anticipated"

"non-traditional hijacking"

"Iraq ....911"


pick any catch-phrase lie over the last 8 years.....recall how the press treated it.....they let the lie stand over and over again.

*by claiming a lie is "alleged" doubt is cast...makes it sound as if the lie has not been documented when it so clearly has...in doing so, Schieffer is giving the lie legitimacy...making it sound as if maybe it wasn't a lie....which feeds the lie.

for a history enshrined in holding the government accountable with the cries of a "free press" - a rally cry those in the press like to hide behind when it's convenient...the press is little more than bought and paid for by the same corrupt institutions their history claims to guard against



not everyone in the press/news industry....but far too many










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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 08:58 AM
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16. This is what the evil of Postmodernism has spawned upon us.
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 08:58 AM by Odin2005
The intellectual coo-coo-heads in Academia declare in their ultimate wisdom that there is no objective reality, hence the Press no longer cares about truth, it just spews opposing talking points.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:28 AM
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11. Bob must be a victim of DSD. Disappearing spine disease. nt
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:38 AM
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12. The "reality-based community"
The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 08:48 AM
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14. Lets call him "Postmodern Bob"...
...since he seems to think we create our own reality. :rofl:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:00 AM
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17. Poor Bob. He's been a MSM Marionette for too long.



He can't even grasp the concept of 'truth' any more. Damn shame. :eyes:




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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:41 AM
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20. truth has a well known liberal bias ~ Stephen Colbert n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:43 AM
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21. we get to vote on whether or not we care
and we will only care (many of us) if the people on TV pretend to care. If they sputter with indignation over the rank dishonesty and if they also report that the MPs are slipping in the polls as more people question their dishonesty, then it will be safe to join the herd.
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