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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:48 AM
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"I’ve been in the business 35 years, and these are the most extraordinary events I’ve ever seen"
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:57 AM
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1. All those MBA's and PhD's in Economics aren't worth the paper
they are printed on. The United States economic system is one big insider trading racket. Thanks to Bush and the neocons, going back to Ronnie Raygun, we have a deregulated system designed to bleed off the net worth of the middle class by tanking all 401(k)'s and pension plans.

From my point of view, the traitorous repukes have succeeded in wrecking the economy for their personal gain.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 07:12 AM
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4. And, don't forget ...
Bush was constantly referred to as the MBA president ... with the Gentleman's (VietNam) C average ...
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:20 AM
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7. Pardon Me?!?!?
The Professor
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:08 PM
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8. MBA is vocational education not a serious academic discipline
You ought to go to vocational school if all you want to do is learn a trade so you can make money. University is where you ought to go to acquire a real education in some valid academic discipline.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:35 AM
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9. Your Answer Is A Non Sequitur
It has nothing to do with what the post to which i reponded said.
The Professor
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:03 AM
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11. No it's more of an ad hominem attack
but it doesn't make it untrue.

I just happen to have little respect for this worthless degree program.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:04 AM
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12. I Never Said Anything About An MBA
The post to which i reponded referred to ECONOMISTS & MBA's. If you think an advanced degree in economics is worthless, then i will consider the source. You're an anti-intellectual snob.
The Professor
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:08 AM
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13. The poster said MBA's are worthless and I agreed
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 08:09 AM by Generic Other
I didn't say anything about economists. I believe fortune tellers and bean counters are incredibly valuable.

I also am a real college professor.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:11 AM
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14. Read The Original Post Again
The title says economists. That's what i was replying to. If you have an opinion, express it freely, but to the right person. And, i'm no bean counter.

I suppose my other two advanced degrees in organic chemistry and mathematics are worthless too?

Anti-intellectual snobbery at its most apparent.
GAC
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:12 AM
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15. You know as well as I do that an MBA is not of equal value to your other degrees
It is insulting to suggest otherwise.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:16 AM
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16. Look Who's Talking
And i don't have an MBA. Try reading for comprehension. I have a third advanced degree in economics which dovetails nicely with the math degree.

And since you admitted to an ad hominem attack, i think it's rich that you say i'm the one doing the insulting. Pot, meet kettle.
GAC
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:37 AM
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18. I told the truth about MBA's VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
It isn't a serious academic discipline and calling me anti-intellectual for saying so is not changing that fact.

These degree programs are for greedy little pricks like Bush who get gentleman C's. The people I know who got MBA's were among the most arrogantly superior people i ever met in college. They constantly brag about how much better they are than the rest of us because they know how to make money. That is a vocational skill not an academic one. There's high school dropouts on Ebay that know as much as the average MBA.

Honestly to be called anti-intellectual for scoffing at the academic achievements of people with business degrees is silly.

Next you'll be telling me jocks getting PE degrees make up the bulk of magna cum laudes.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:45 AM
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19. Hence, Your Original Reply To Me Was A Non Sequitur
Which is what i said in the first place.

GAC
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:49 AM
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20. How so? The original poster said MBA's were worthless pieces of paper
You asked for clarification (pardon moi??), and I provided some.

By the way, are you a real college professor or do you just play one on DU?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:28 AM
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21. Then You Should Have Answered That Poster
All i said was "Pardon Me?" I never defended MBA's or anything else. So, you replied to me instead of the person with whom you agreed.

Hence; non sequitur.

And, yes. I've been teaching at the grad school level since the mid-80's. So, you can stop your silly insults. They're laughable. You've got nothing. I know it. You know it.

And this discourse over.
GAC
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:58 AM
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25. this is a message board and one shouldn't post if one doesn't want responses
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 09:59 AM by Generic Other
When you beg for clarification by responding as if you didn't hear or understand the original comment, one should not be surprised that others would offer to help you better understand.

It is not a non sequitur. That you don't like my observation is not my problem.


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BlueInPhilly Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:48 AM
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10. I have an MBA
from one of the top schools, and I don't regret having it for a single second.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 07:00 AM
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2. Following Bush's example
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 07:01 AM by DFW
Bush based his qualifications to be president on much the same foundation as
the New York brokerages based their equity: hot air.

In both cases, it works as long as no one blows the whistle about the true
nature of the emperor's new clothes. The only trouble is that Cheneybush is
outta here in four months, but they will not be taking their mess with
them. They are adopting the words of the dying Louis XV: "après moi, le deluge."

In these times of instant gratification, the deluge has just come a few months
early, that's all. This comes as surprise?
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 07:03 AM
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3. We're tooled.
I expect this is going to shrapnel the Toronto Stock Exchange as well. Great. :scared:
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 07:17 AM
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5. The world needs to vote.
They must make it clear that if the US wants to participate in a global economy, they will not accept McCain / Palin. Make it clear that the US is no longer calling the shots. Make it clear that the Bush Doctrine is unacceptable behavior.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:13 AM
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6. What bits I've been able to catch at work
in between actual work, that is, this morning is that the world is indeed voting. A good bit of it is considering the dollar to be so much bumpaper. Oh, f'ing yay, now our outstanding international debt is skyrocketing by the second. Gee thanks, Cheneyburton, with your now safely-offshored dollars cashed to euros in Dubai accounts.

Where the hell are Keating, Norquist, Phil Gramm and Neal Bush and why aren't they depended from short lengths of rope? I know they aren't the whole cause, but, dang, wouldn't that be a good start? How about all the merry band on the Forked Tongue Express? Heaven knows there are more than plenty candidates. It's long past time to festoon the Mall with object lessons.

Just thinkin' out loud, nothing more...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:17 AM
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17. My son-in-law was in a horrific accident when he was a young child
He is watching his settlement sail away on a breeze today if AIG goes under. The other half of his settlement is owned by Jenworth. It will probably be gone by the end of the week.

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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:41 AM
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23. oh no... how unfair
I hope things will stabilize and he won't lose too much. Best wishes to him and his family. :hug:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:34 AM
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22. So, AIG goes under, what happens to all the claims from Ike?
Sounds like we're fucked coming and going.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:00 AM
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26. Well. those "insurance companies" have some pretty fine looking
glass towers they built, and the CEOs have some mighty fine mansions, boats, vehicles, gilded parachutes.. I guess we could line up and look at them:eyes:
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:48 AM
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24. It will all be better in 24 business hours!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:09 AM
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27. Since the late 1920s, I'll wager...
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