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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 12:51 PM Original message |
Pakistani troops fire on US soldiers near Afghan border |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. OK, that's problematic. Condi or someone high-ranking needs to get |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Pakistan has every fucking right to defend the sovereignty of their borders |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. They have done virtually nothing to keep their border from being |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. not our problem. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. How are cross-border raids to kill AQ targets about oil? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. cross border raids are cowardly. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. ??--we're not looking to take over and defeat Pakistan. We are seeking |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. except our intelligence sucks |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Who said anything about collateral damage? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. that's fucked up thinking |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-17-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Civilian deaths are awful |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. So you would have no problem with Cuba sending military troops into the US? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. War as a general venture is pretty cowardly. It's why we bomb from 45,000 feet instead of direct... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. yes, but the difference is declaration of war |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. A quick point |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Chimpy isn't trying to take out anybody. Except Barack Obama (rhetorically speaking) |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-17-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Sounds pretty out there |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Then we stop our support for the Pakistan government. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Well, if the administration had ANY diplomatic competence, it wouldn't |
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E-Z-B (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. What if the border raids shift to Afghanistan/China? |
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varun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Pakistan's border with Afghanistan is questionable |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Except our wild west was pretty civilized |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Except our wild west was pretty civilized |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. a 'hit and withdraw' mission.. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. The Pakistanis have been telling us that for years--that any serious |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Perhaps if the United States.. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. As I said above, there are people in those mountains who killed Americans |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. people who killed americans? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. OK, well, we disagree on the fundamental question on who is responsible |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. ok, you're naive. nt |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. oh please... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Well, unlike you, I'm able to mentally separate our mission in Afghanistan |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. well, unlike you, I'm able.. |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. I'm just going to show you two quotes from your post, and ask you if you don't see a contradiction |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-17-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. There is no contradiction there |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Ingrates!! How dare they defend their own borders against killers. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. This so dangerous. n/t |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. OMG and we are selling them some new F16's. That could get |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. An ideal time to stop foreign aid to them. nt |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
29. Would the US open fire on a foreign government's troops |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. According to the Bush Doctrine, the US could invade Pakistan. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. True but maybe Condi should have checked |
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