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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:17 PM
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Odd photo from Ike devastation
One would normally see this from a tornado but how did this house end up being the only thing left standing after Hurricane Ike?







I came across it while looking at the following power company website for my sis in TX.

http://entergy.com/Global/Gustav/images/ike_3_pictures.aspx
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:18 PM
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1. is it real or is it photoshop?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:22 PM
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8. I don't think it was
I saw another pic of the same house only it was from a different angle. It was also posted on I think Getty Images...could be wrong about the website but it was definitely a news source.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:18 PM
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2. wow. that would be the contractor to use!
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:39 PM
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22. LOL - you made me laugh. Thanks. ~nt~
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:19 PM
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3. floated there?
photoshopped?

state farm ad?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:26 PM
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43. That's my reaction - the house is still standing but it may
have started out on stilts several miles away.....
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:19 PM
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4. looks photoshopped.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:25 PM
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13. It's not photoshopped
I've seen about 20 pictures from different angles.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:19 PM
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5. Built by a Democratic...
...union crew?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:49 PM
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26. There ya go! n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:20 PM
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6. I saw that last night
Different angle, but same house. Very odd that it survived while everything around it was totally wiped out.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:28 PM
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44. The photo in the original Coast Guard Helo pass over had a white pick up truck in the front yard,
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 09:28 PM by KoKo01
though. Maybe it's the angle of this photo that leaves it out? :shrug: I was struck by that house when I watched the Coast Guard film on the Houston Station this morning.

Now...I do wonder if it was somehow photoshopped in there.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:21 PM
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7. Not a structural engineer...

but my guess is

1) higher stilts

2) concrete pad for the stilts

3) Rock under the concrete (probably the concrete is bolted to the rock).

And it wasn't wind that wiped out everything else there, it was water (storm surge). Ike had damaging winds but not total devastation (Cat 4 or 5) winds. What it did have was a large (but thankfully a little less than feared) storm surge.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:01 PM
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30. Those were my guesses
Although it looks reasonably intact, closer inspection reveals it did lose one deck on the right of the house. It also seems to have roof damage.

There must have been a stairway from the lower level to the missing deck, also, otherwise there is no way into that house.

However, it's remarkably well built to have survived when so many other places were smashed to splinters. I would imagine that the supports are reinforced concrete instead of the usual wood stilts.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:35 PM
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39. And I wouldn't be surprised if that homeowner took a lot of shit from his neighbors
over 'spending all that extra money' and overbuilding...
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:22 PM
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9. Freaky things happen in extreme weather
If you ever get a chance read Frank Laine's "Unusual Weather". It was a book I came across as a kid that really piqued my interest in weather and nature. It also helped that I grew up in OKC and was familiar with tornadoes.

fwiw, the house may have become detached and floated there. But that is incredible.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:22 PM
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10. New hurricane resistant construction?
No one can ever know the true power of nature.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:22 PM
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11. There are pictures from ABC13 helicopter that back this type of event up
They have finally been able to fly down Galveston Isle, and there are incidences like this all up and down the island. One house is standing amongst an ocean of debris or just bare space with a small suggestion of a slab where a house once stood.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:24 PM
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12. Here's another photo of the same house:


Not only is the house standing, but it looks untouched. :shrug:
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:27 PM
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15. Like others I thought it looked photoshopped but apparently it is "real"
it truly is one of the strangest things!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:31 PM
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45. But...the photo from the Chopper I saw earlier shows white pick up truck parked next to house..
and that's from the Coast Guard Chopper. :shrug: It looked strange then...and even stranger now.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:25 PM
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14. Similar situation after Katrina in Slidell, Lousiana
on streets near the eastern edge of Lake Pontchartrain, many houses wiped out but a few on high stilts received little to no damage.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:27 PM
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16. I feel as sorry for the owners as for the ones who lost their houses.
There can be no joy in their "good luck."
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:28 PM
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17. Yes, there are a few amazing photos of that house
It should be studied to see why it survived while no others around it (for some distance) did. Despite a bit of damage it looks new; perhaps the stilts and their joins with the house were reinforced in a special way.
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io-solip Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:30 PM
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18. There were a bunch of similar scenes after Andrew. It does seem weird but not all that rare.
...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:30 PM
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19. Do we know for sure the house was in that spot before the storm?
:shrug:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:32 PM
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46. The driveway, walk and steps line up.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:33 PM
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20. thats gonna be one lonely neighborhood.
at least they have thier own road...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:36 PM
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21. If not photoshopped, it sure is a candidate for "The X-Files".
Let's see ET's protected it with a force field? A medicine man put a juju on it to make the wind go around it? The eye of the hurricane touched down on that spot and then lifted when it moved on?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:45 PM
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23. All the other houses were raptured and that one was
"LEFT BEHIND?" :scared:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:49 PM
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25. LOL! Perfect! n/t
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:47 PM
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24. High ground and good construction.
That's how.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:10 PM
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35. Not on high ground.
It's right on the waterway. Check out XemaSab's post #12, upthread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4006343#4006401


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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:49 PM
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47. Yes it is. I know the house.
It sits above the others.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:53 PM
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48. The ground is 8-15 feet above the other houses in the area?
:shrug:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:57 PM
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27. Honestly, it looks like the house and partial slab were moved.
From this pic, you can clearly see the street, and it lays pretty flush with the height of the yards. From this pic and Xema's pic below, that doesn't look like a street to the front of that house.

THAT would be a freak event.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:58 PM
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28. Cnn has the same house, different view, labeled as an AP photo.
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 04:00 PM by OurVotesCount-Ohio
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/09/15/hurricane.ike/index.html#cnnSTCPhoto


Think it was picture #4 in Gilchrist Tx.

Weird isn't it, that one house can be left while everything else is gone. I wonder if it was newer, built different or if it was just a matter of luck.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:59 PM
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29. FEMA and the insurance carriers will now claim this house as 'proof'...
that damage was 'isolated and minimal'...


in the meantime, move along...and don't be looking for too many pictures...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:02 PM
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31. High ground. nt
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:05 PM
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32. Gilchrist, TX
I'm tying find the house on Google Maps satellite view. I'd like to see a "before" image of the surroundings, but I can't find it... It may be new, or I may be looking in the wrong place.

Link to Gilchrist, TX on Google Maps
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:07 PM
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33. or it may be PS
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:13 PM
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36. Search Getty Images
for catalog images.... Editorial #82814183 - Editorial #82814189

You'll find multiple angles of the same scene.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:07 PM
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34. Engineered steel frame
All them white posts are steel, not wood. Two bits says it's the newest house in the area and was designed specifically to withstand hurricanes. All the replacement homes in that area will be designed to the same standards as that one, especially if they want to purchase insurance for their house.
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:51 PM
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38. I doubt it.
I think its the slab protecting the base of the treated wood columns (posts)that saved it.

I've never seen a stilt beach house with steel columns. That would be extremely expensive and would not last long in such a corrosive environment, even if they were galvanized. Stainless steel would be good, but would be ridiculously expensive.

Like I said above, slab sub-contractors are going to use this photo for advertising.

Pretty amazing at any rate.
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behave Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:24 PM
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42. I think you're right. Rafters, floor joists, and vertical columns are probably all steel.
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:39 PM
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37. The columns are protected by a concrete slab
unlike most beach houses, where they are not, allowing eddies to remove sand around the base of the columns.

This photo will probably be used by concrete sub-contractors to sell slabs.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:48 PM
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40. Everything else wiped out as far as the eye can see. I wonder how many of those houses weren't empty
and how many people have died.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:06 PM
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41. Very weird, and LUCKY. If the house is sitting in its original location it appears that the slab
was undermined but didn't break up, meaning that it was very well-reinforced.

If it moved from its original location it must have floated/skimmed across the flood waters to its present location. It may have had the immense good fortune to be last house standing so it avoided ramming into other storm debris--parts of homes, vehicles, docks, decks, etc--during its journey.

The steel column theory works for me, but the corrosion issue would be a major one.

I hope someone will follow up on this after folks are allowed to go back on the island.


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