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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 02:31 PM
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How Can We Make National Healthcare Look Like A Corporate Bailout
If we can do that, then the govt will fund it.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 02:33 PM
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1. Well, isn't it one of the reasons GM claims it has to do layoffs for?
They say that $4000, IIRC, of the cost of every car is due to health care costs for employees and their families. So in a sense it actually is a bailout for some industries.
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:12 PM
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2. I favor it
The country, as a whole. does not save anything if business is required to pay for health insurance for its employees. It only makes them less competitive with foreign businesses, and as a result, jobs are loss. If Government takes over the cost of providing health insurance, some jobs will return, and we would all be better off. There will have to be a slight tax increase, but most people wouldn't mind. I would favor a consumption tax, however, I heard Ben Stein, who is quite conservative, advocate a 3 1/2% across the board income tax increase for everyone, which is feasable.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:15 PM
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5. I guess you know that business isn't required to?
"if business is required to pay for health insurance for its employees"

And more and more, they don't.



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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:25 PM
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7. No tax increase is required at all. Cut out the insurance companies
and we are already paying more than we need to to insure everyone.

But of course, that makes far too much sense and would hurt the parasite class, so it can't be allowed.



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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:13 PM
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3. or energy -- if Banks are of such importance to the national economy -- by not OIL
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:14 PM
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4. How smart you are! nt
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:22 PM
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6. Kick and rec for excellent reasoning! n/t
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 03:22 PM by ColbertWatcher
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:27 PM
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8. let's do a pump and dump of one of the major health insurance companies
talk them up, buy a lot of their stock, then badmouth them until they tank
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:31 PM
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9. Insurance companies going bankrupt. Time for singlepayer
Geesh. We just gave $85 bil in taxpayer funds to bail out (& takeover) AIG, the biggist insur. co. in the world. Why not just start with that & take the healthcare part & run it. Pick up the rest as they go under. Roll them all into medicare for all.

It looks like the insurance companies took the premium money anyway & gambled it away.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:36 PM
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10. make sure that a connected repuke will profit from the "bailout"
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