lligrd
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:26 AM
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So What Interest Rate Will AIG Be Paying Us |
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Seeing as they are a terrible credit risk, shouldn't they be paying at least 18%? What about late payment fees? What is good for the goose should be good for the gander (or in this case the golden goose), don't you think?
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:27 AM
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1. And we should get a Permanent Fund Dividend |
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Like Alaskans get from their oil.
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:32 AM
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4. I'd Love To Ask Palin What She Thinks Of The Idea lol nt |
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Fri Sep-19-08 06:38 AM
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20. "In what respect, lligrd?" n/t |
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:29 AM
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2. I saw on DU something like 8% was agreed for the 80 billion |
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which I'd bet is too low to even cover the defaults in that 'portfolio"...
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:39 AM
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7. 8% With That Credit Rating? Far Too Low |
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I'd really like an answer to the reason it is fair for corporations to charge individuals deemed a poor credit risk ridiculous interest rates that the corporations themselves aren't subject to when they are on the verge of bankruptcy. This is a great time to bring up the unfair lending practices that the public has been subject to.
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:30 AM
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3. Isn't it funny how Repiglicans like to privatize gain and socialize loss? |
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:34 AM
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5. Amazing! And What Happened To Personal Responsibility? |
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I guess corporations are exempt!
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Fri Sep-19-08 05:25 PM
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30. They should just pick themselves up by their bootstraps. |
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:36 AM
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6. It should be an adjustable rate, and an immediate rise to 32% if they miss a payment. |
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:40 AM
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8. Yep, And A $2 Million Dollar Late Payment Fee |
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even if they mailed it on time but it sat in the mail bin till it was late.
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Fri Sep-19-08 02:47 AM
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9. It's Libor (3%) + 8%, which means it's around 11% |
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Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 02:47 AM by aein
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:26 AM
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13. That's what I heard yesterday morning.. |
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:29 AM
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14. So We've Outsourced Our ARM Now? nt |
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:35 AM
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15. Good, Then Let's Cap All Interest Rates At The Same |
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:10 AM
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10. I can't believe nobody's rec'd the thread. |
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Probably a signal of the lack of interest regarding the people's interest.
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:14 AM
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Might just be the time of day I post though.
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:24 AM
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Fri Sep-19-08 03:48 AM
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16. 11% is fucking high. I have 5.25% on my mortgage. |
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Seriously, I've been listening to Marketplace, and we the taxpayers could very well come out ahead on this deal. AIG has good assets and we are going to break that bad boy up and sell it off.
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Fri Sep-19-08 04:00 AM
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17. Huh. Their Credit Rating Sucked |
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They were on their way to bankruptcy. You try getting that rate in that condition. Say you just lost your job and your house was worth less than you owed, think you'd still get that rate? Hell no. Why, cause you are a bad risk. These are the same freaking greedy corporations that lobbied for the bankruptcy bill and an end to usury laws. How the heck can you advocate protecting them while allowing them to charge even higher rates to those that they service?
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Fri Sep-19-08 04:54 AM
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18. 850 basis points over Libor |
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Right now that's about 11.5%
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Fri Sep-19-08 06:05 AM
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19. Forget the interest rates, my question is "Why is no one sitting in jail for these massive failers?" |
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"Why aren't the perpetrators in danger of losing their ill got gains?"
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Fri Sep-19-08 07:41 AM
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21. What felony have they committed |
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Under ordinary circumstances losing money in a business is not a criminal offense. If it were, hundreds of small business owners each year would be going to the pen. Unfortunately, incompetence and bad judgement are not a chargeable offenses.
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Fri Sep-19-08 08:09 AM
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Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 08:10 AM by nichomachus
Corporate officers have a legal obligation -- punishable in criminal court -- to act in the best interests of the corporation and to maximize profit. It's in the law. They can be held criminally liable for not taking prudent action to protect the assets and profits of the stockholders.
In fact, this is one of the reasons corporate officers cannot act in the best interest of the public if it will negatively impact profits. And, it's really something that needs to be changed.
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Fri Sep-19-08 11:11 AM
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but have the stockholders taken any action against AGI or Lehman.
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Fri Sep-19-08 07:44 AM
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22. Only 18%. . ..unless there's ONE LATE PAYMENT. . |
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Then, according to law, we can crank it up as high as we want.. (Who was it that made sure there were no limitations on the rate they can be charged?)
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Fri Sep-19-08 08:56 AM
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24. Like Charlie Brown used to say, "I can't stand it." |
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Corporate America had me bent over their knee for -years- until I was able to get my credit put back together, and now they just get bail-out after bail-out. And they're getting it from MY TAXES! It makes me want to punch a hole in the wall! Where the hell was my bail-out?
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Fri Sep-19-08 05:11 PM
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27. -4.0% APR. Now that they are nationalized... |
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they have no incentive to actually work; the tax IV has been hooked up, and they can just lay there forever sucking it up.
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Fri Sep-19-08 05:22 PM
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29. ~11.5% - which is 8.5% above the London interbank rates |
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"The government is lending AIG the money at 8.5 percentage points above the three-month London interbank offered rate, or a current rate of about 11.5 percent." http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a6QAz6YiyRAI&refer=home
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