Bristol (Palin's daughter) caught on video smoking pot

[varun]

http://gawker.com/5051160/do-christians-care-whether-bristol-palin-smoked-pot

[tabasco]

1. Legalize & regulate.

End the injustice.

End the hypocrisy.

[dipsydoodle]

2. Maybe "puts her lips around the pipe"

was a euphemism. :shrug:

[peekaloo]

6. .

:thumbsup:

[Buzz Clik]

13. In that particular case, she did more than inhale.

[lame54]

39. maybe if she did that - she wouldn't be facing a shotgun wedding

[sharp_stick]

24. Well done n/t

[Meshuga]

3. Where is the video? n/t

[seabeyond]

33. i didnt find video either and i wanted to watch. n/t

[rsmith6621]

4. What!!...She Is Not Supporting The

.....Local Meth dealers....shocking.

[Nickster]

5. Wow, they are more and more like the Bush family every day.

[trumad]

7. Question is--- is she pregnant while smoking dope?

[jakem]

8. ooh. seriously.

? ? ?

[tpsbmam]

11. She was reportedly 15 when the tape was made.....

Doesn't mean that she hasn't continued during her pregnancy, but the tape isn't recent.

[dysfunctional press]

15. just because she was 15 at the time of the tape...

how does that mean that "she hasn't continued during her pregnancy"..? :shrug:

[tpsbmam]

35. I quote from my post....

"Doesn't mean that she hasn't continued during her pregnancy...."

[SweetieD]

47. Aww That makes is better. wait nope lol

[tpsbmam]

9. I'd truly say leave this young woman alone

except that she's paying a high price for the hypocrisy, dishonesty & just plain smarminess of her mother. I'm torn -- she's done the same things as TONS of kids and she she didn't ask for this public life. On the other hand, her mother's beliefs & practices....and the fact that she will try to foist them on the rest of us.....sort of for me makes this fair game. Normally, a kid smoked pot -- so what. A kid gets pregnant -- how sad. It's the "I'm more morally fit and better than you" Palin attitude and her asinine politics that makes this an issue.

[Jennicut]

14. Sarah Palin is the problem here, not Bristol

Bristol is just a 17 year old pregnant teenager. Her mother's hypocrisy is the issue but I do feel for Bristol. She probably didn't want to be in the spotlight like this. This is actually a pretty sad situation that her mother AND father don't seem to be paying attention to what is happening with their daughter.

[pnorman]

19. From The Nation:

Sarah Palin's Shotgun Politics

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If she doesn't want her children in the line of fire, she shouldn't introduce them to the battlefield or use her parenting as a weapon. That goes for Barack Obama, John McCain and Joe Biden as well.
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080922/younge

pnorman

[Midlodemocrat]

100. Abso-fucking-lutely.

:applause:

[NJmaverick]

10. Why is it the ones that push the hardest for "family values"

are the ones that usually the most lacking in them?

[bdamomma]

12. just hypocrites.

[mainegreen]

20. Because they are shitty parents, they deny their own blame, and blame other kids.

If only your child had not tempted my kid.
'Your vile son got my innocent daughter pregnant' or 'Your hussy tempted my pure son off the path of righteousness'.

etc, etc, etc.

[jpertello]

16. Keep Family Out Of It

I don't criticize or laugh at a child in here. I DO however find fault with the extremely neglectful set of parents which are Todd and Sarah Palin. While Mommy persued her political career and Daddy was off snowmobiling and fishing, who was watching the children? Did the Palins not have enough $$ to hire nannys or pay for afterschool activities (I mean the kind which are supervised)?? Even teenagers need something to keep them occupied so they stay out of trouble. Poor Bristol and the rest of those neglected children (and I wonder who is watching them while Mommy and Daddy travel around with Old Mr. McCain?)

[nichomachus]

27. The word is

that the kids were "farmed out" to friends and relatives, and often just left on their own, while Mom and Dad were bounding around the tundra seeing what they could steal and speaking in tongues.

[The Stranger]

41. Keep them in it. All the time in it. Palin is a monster.

She must be stopped.

[RB TexLa]

17. She'll just say this like the teen pregnancy happens to every single family in America.

[jpertello]

21. In my experience as a parent

only the most neglected, ignored, ignorant and unsupervised girls get pregnant as teens. It's amazing that she was doing all this at 15. I have a 14 yr old daughter who is usually with me at home when she's not in school. And never out alone or with friends at night! Who is letting these kids out at night? It sounds to me like a family out of control.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

60. You sound like a Republican.

They say the same thing about black teenage mothers.

[Adarlene]

68. that's not really fair...

I got pregnant at lunchtime on a school day. Boyfriend picked me up for "lunch". Condom fell off. Found it when I went to the bathroom (at school) later that day. Had abortion. Lived happily ever after.

My parents were very open and honest about sexuality and protecting yourself (way progressive for 1979 IMO!) against STD's and pregnancy. No one told me that the fella should pull out while still hard so the condom won't fall off inside!

[jpertello]

118. So...

to you and the other unfortunates who found themselves pregnant as teens: You consider yourself to have been well informed and well supervised?

Actually I was not trying to insult anyone with my post.

[hamsterjill]

80. Good parenting

That's right. Good, responsible parents know where their children are and know who they are with, when they are expected home, etc. Anything less is reckless parenting at best.

And I don't want to be flamed by people saying that you cannot possibly keep an eye on teens 24/7. I realize that, but you get the parenting rules in process LONG before these children become teens.

[Blue_In_AK]

83. I got pregnant when I was 19

out of wedlock, way back in 1966. I had wonderful parents who never came close to neglecting me or ignoring me. Your post is ridiculous.

[Midlodemocrat]

95. .

:thumbsup:


And, I didn't get pregnant out of wedlock. The post is still ridiculous, however, not to mention amazingly judgmental.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

70. It CAN happen

to every single family in America.

[RB TexLa]

99. The governor said it HAPPENS in every single American family.

Of course making up lies is nothing new to her, so hard to know if she is stupid enough to think every family has a knocked up teenager or is just lying.

[Sebastian Doyle]

81. or worse yet, she'll go Biblical on it

"You know that the Virgin Mary, blessed mother of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, was a pregnant teenager".

Which is probably true, but I don't remember any references to Mary getting high (Though other people might have thought she was when she told them God was her baby's daddy.)

[Joanne98]

18. Where's the video?

[johnlal]

91. Hopefully, it's not on the end of the tape

of Michelle Obama saying "whitey". Nobody has ever found that tape, for some reason.

[pnorman]

22. One reader's comment there:

"McCain is unbeatable at this point. They've got the pregnant unwed teen vote, single parent vote, war hero vote, drug enthusiast vote, hott inexperienced governor vote, american beer empire vote, rothschild vote, haters of polar bears....the list goes on and on.

Thanks enquirer for encouraging their campaign."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

pnorman (:rofl:)

[jpertello]

25. moosehunter vote. senile vote.

[RB TexLa]

26. Don't laugh, the "pregnant unwed teen vote" is the 20% or so of uneducated white women who went to

them after this all came out. I call them white trash moms. They associate with either Sarah or Bristol. Either they or their daughters were or are knocked up as a teenager. They now look at Barack Obama's children and realize they will go to school get good jobs then get married and have children like Joe Biden's children did and they now resent them for that.

Nothing to do with issues or politics, they associate with someone on the gop ticket and resent the people on the Democratic ticket.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

62. Dude, you sound like a fucking elitist.

People like you give the Democratic party a bad name.

[Ikonoklast]

89. What makes you think that poster is a Democrat?

Because he says so?

Disruptor, barely skirting the rules. Every time, negative.

Ignore his dumb ass.

[Midlodemocrat]

96. Wait? He won't drink with you, either?

:hide:


:thumbsup:

[Ikonoklast]

109. !

:spray:

[maxsolomon]

92. 'white trash' aside, he sounds realistic

the low-information, low-education voter is influenced not by facts, but by emotional reactions to a candidate.

a great number of low or lower-middle class white voters are highly motivated by fear & resentment. they will vote against their own best interests when told things like "democrats are elitists", or "democrats want to force your kids to be gay".

all of us have predjudices. ALL OF US. and wealthy republicans? they're WORSE than most educated liberals. but somehow it's only an issue when it's a liberal, right?

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. You have absolutely no clue what will become of the Obama children.

Why act as though you do? No one does. Repeat... No One Does.

[RB TexLa]

94. True, but that's how the voters I described see them. And they resent our ticket for that.

Just like they resent the side of their family that didn't get knocked up and went to college.

[Better Believe It]

104. "white trash moms"???? Give It A Rest!

Let see now, you definitely prefer the kids of rich folks .... the kids of poor working class (white trash) moms have the same rights and opportunities as the children of Biden, Obama, McCain, Bush and other rich people.

Is that what you think? Now that is elitism .... the kind we always see in the Republican party and all too frequently among some so-called "liberal" Democrats.

Please don't put down working class poor people, including those who live in trailers or even tent cities, as "white trash".

Well, maybe it really is all about the working class in this society, even more than race or gender.

We're being screwed by rich people. They run the economy (into the ground for us) and the government.

We have no political power and that's where you want to keep us?

We will change that.

[leftchick]

23. some very good comments at the link...

Oh, Moe. Teenage promiscuity, pregnancy and rampant drug use are only a thorny moral issue when brown people and/or Democrats do it. When the children of the nice, folksy white people next door turn out debauched, we turn the other cheek so far that we can't even see their sins peripherally.




isn't that the truth!

[chat_noir]

37. another comment

McCain is unbeatable at this point. They've got the pregnant unwed teen vote, single parent vote, war hero vote, drug enthusiast vote, hott inexperienced governor vote, american beer empire vote, rothschild vote, haters of polar bears....the list goes on and on.

[WeDidIt]

28. So What The Fuck Does That HAve to Do With The Election?

Not a fucking thing as far as I can see.

[Lochloosa]

29. ...

:applause:

[RB TexLa]

30. How do you applaud that statement with a picture of a candidate with a family member right below it?

[jberryhill]

32. Hmmm... let's see....

Michelle Obama - active in the campaign and a voluntary public figure who makes speaking and media appearances on behalf of the campaign.

Bristol Palin - minor and hostage.

Do you see a difference there?

[Lochloosa]

61. Thank you. I wasn't going to bother to reply.

[leftchick]

69. then why is Cindy McCain's drug addiction/theft off the table?

cuz you know if it had been Michele Obama the repukes would never stop harassing her. They are the ones with no moral compass and it is up to us to deride their hypocritical choices because god knows the media will not.

[jberryhill]

72. It's not off my table

At this point, the problem is one of persuading undecideds and republican leaners. If you know someone whose mind will be made up on the basis of Cindy's drug stuff, that's a fine topic.

Going off about the private business of minors who did not choose to be in this freak show is unseemly.

[Ian_rd]

31. You're absolutely correct, but it's nevertheless warranted to report ...

... for the sole reason that the Republican Party makes our private lives a matter of their agenda on a regular basis, and uses so-called moral character evaluations as a major part of their campaigns (because they can't win on the issues).

Therefore, I say that if they want to play that game, then they can pay the consequences when it bites them in the ass.

Holy Jesus, imagine if Obama had an underage daughter who smokes pot and got knocked up out of wedlock. The right-wing and MSM would be exploding with 24-7 discussion on how this is the final verdict on the failings of the liberal anti-family do-it-cause-it-feels-good godless lack of morality that is ruining our country.

Fuck them. They can eat it.

[vogonity]

48. I wish I could mod up your comment

I think this comment is worth reposting in its own thread.

Well said, my friend

[Danascot]

53. If Obama had children like Palin's

the msm and the wingers would already have consigned him to the political trash-heap like Edwards and Sptizer.

[seabeyond]

34. when the fuck did du become so narrow that only per election is allowed to be talked about

you dont want to talk about other shit, dont come in the thread.

[The Stranger]

42. Teenage drug use, teenage pregnancy, education, drug programs, drug abuse.

Sure, not a fucking thing to do with anything.

[Yuugal]

36. I say leave her alone

Poor kid had to grow up with fundie parents. Fertile recruiting ground for our party, always. We are supposed to be the party that is above the Chelsea bashing so before we run around gleefully hitting her over the head for every thing this child has done or has had happen to her, lets remember who the good guys are supposed to be and maybe show a little bit of that compassion and empathy our side used to have.

Considering what a lying, piece of shit, chickenhawk, dumbass her mom is.....I think we have plenty of things to talk about rather than child bashing.

Free the weed!

[The Stranger]

44. I say we don't leave her alone. She's up on the fucking stage showing herself to the world.

She's an adult now, a legal adult. If she wanted privacy, she wouldn't be parading herself all over the fucking television set.

Let's get it on.

[jberryhill]

73. I haven't seen any of the kids in a while, and she didn't choose to be a part of this /nt

[yardwork]

38. I'm going to suggest that Trig is Bristol's child and he does not have Down Syndrome

Trig might have fetal alcohol syndrome.

[Midlodemocrat]

85. No, he definitely has Down Syndrome. He has epicanthic folds.

Not saying he might not also have FAS or FAE, but he is definitely a Down Syndrome baby. Damned cute one at that.

[NOLALady]

40. If this happened to Obama's daughter,

Sarah Palin would be the first to disparage the Obama's.

The RW talk shows would be crying loud and long about the "crisis" in ALL families of color. The talk would quickly escalate from a private family problem into a community problem of teen pregnancy and rampant drug abuse.

[Union Thug]

52. I think that you are right about this, but on the other hand...

I personally don't care if she roasts a bowl now and then, so I'm torn on this one. Bristol is, in the end, just a kid - one that has made some mistakes, but still she's a kid. She can't help that her mother is a raving, unhinged right-wing, fantasy-worlder. In fact, her mother (I would argue) is responsible for creating the person that we find so easy to attack.

If anything, we should be winning over kids like Bristol. She was smart enought to tell her parents to shove off (albeit passively agressively); she might make a good political ally someday if we don't tear her apart first.

[Union Thug]

43. See, there is something I like about Bristol. You go girl!

[smoogatz]

46. Damn straight.

She's her own person, at least--not buying into her parents' phony fundie act. Good for her.

[L0oniX]

45. She should hookup with Jeb's daughter and have a party.

Noelle Bush

A booking photo of Noelle Bush, 24, taken after her arrest in Tallahassee, Florida

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- The daughter of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was arrested early Tuesday after she allegedly tried to fill a false prescription at a Tallahassee, Florida, pharmacy, police said.

[Ghost in the Machine]

111. Police find cocaine on Florida Governor Bush's daughter ( 9-10-2002 )

Police find cocaine on Florida Governor Bush's daughter

ORLANDO (AP) — Gov. Jeb Bush's 25-year-old daughter was found with what was believed to be crack at a drug rehab center where she was undergoing court-ordered treatment, police said. If confirmed, it would be Noelle Bush's second lapse since entering rehab and could result in jail. Police late Monday were called to the Center for Drug Free Living in Orlando, where workers gave them a 0.2-gram rock they said they found in Noelle Bush's shoe, Sgt. Orlando Rolon said.

The rock tested positive for cocaine in a police field test, but Bush was not immediately arrested because police could not get staff members at the rehab center to cooperate and give sworn statements, Rolon said.

A patient had called police, but staffers tried to persuade them to let the center follow its standard policy of handling the matter internally, Rolon said.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-10-cocane-bush-daughter_x.htm

[Midlodemocrat]

49. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis

"if you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do well matters very much."


Dead on.

[smalll]

112. Does raising a child who has major issues passing the bar exam AND the pilots' exam ...

does that count as bungling? One wonders. :shrug:

[Midlodemocrat]

121. ?

Does not compute.

[bigtree]

50. there's nothing at all wrong with weed

This is juvenile and wrong to run the daughter down for doing something so innocuous. Get a life.

[Union Thug]

54. I agree. Through her action she's told her overbearing, right wing loon parents to shove off...

She's a kid and didn't get to choose the trash that raised her. She was smart enough to rebel, so she may also be smart enough to see the political light someday. We should be embracing kids like this instead of tearing her down.

Yes, I know the right wing would attack the Obama's family, and I admit that my first inclination was to mock this messed up red-neck family, but having given this some consideration, we should be directing our attacks on Sarah and Todd. The kids are what they are, but they didn't ask for any of this.

[Midlodemocrat]

55. Except for the fact that it is illegal.

:shrug:

[bigtree]

56. do you always drive the speed limit?

ever jaywalk? Those are illegal.

[Midlodemocrat]

57. Actually, yes, And, I don't jaywalk.

I'm also not running for office on a 'family values' "We know what is best for your family" platform.

[bigtree]

58. The kid's also not running for office on 'family values' or anything else

She should be left out of this.

All of this concern about pot sounds awfully hypocritical for folks so concerned about the rise of a 'fundie'

[Midlodemocrat]

63. It's not that.

A quote from Jackie Onassis,

"if you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do well matters very much."

I happen to believe that is true.

If this woman, and McSame for that matter, have such a callous disregard for the well being of their own blood family, how in God's name will they treat US?

[Celeborn Skywalker]

65. Yeah but,

not everyone considers their kid smoking pot a problem. (I'm sure the Palins do) My parents were excellent and let me experiment with weed as long as I didn't leave the house and it didn't affect my grades. I didn't and it didn't. I hate to be defending this family, but one's kid smoking weed is hardly a disregard for the well being of their family ( There are other reasons to suggest this woman has a callous disregard for her family, but not this, IMHO.)

[bigtree]

67. If Obama's kids, someday, get into trouble

I'd hope that our side has the room to demand privacy for the children. I think this tabloid nonsense is sick, no matter who promotes it.

[Blue_In_AK]

84. Not in Alaska.

See Ravin v. State, 537 P.2d 494 (Alaska 1975). http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/ravin.html

[Number23]

114. My God, I was about to say the exact same thing

Except for the fact that it is illegal.

I guess that little morsel has escaped some here. And if she's still smoking it now that she's pregnant, that's just a whole 'nother added element to this already sordid little tale....

[JVS]

88. Normally I'd agree, but when you smoke a bunch of weed and get knocked up at 16...

it's time to stop and seriously consider what a fucking shitfest you're making your life into.

[Midlodemocrat]

97. Yup.

:thumbsup:

[bigtree]

106. you'd have to adopt all sorts of hokum to explain how pot is responsible for all of that

give it a try

[JVS]

107. Pot isn't responsible for it, Bristol Palin is.

We all know that it's fun to fuck and get baked. But when you're a pregnant teen and those are the activities you devote your time to, you're fucking up at life. Don't do what you can't handle. And yes, this all means that Bristol's a bad kid and it's more than likely that Sarah is a shitty mom.

[Taliesan]

51. Fun but irrelevant

[Celeborn Skywalker]

59. Cool.

I like her a little more now.

[spinbaby]

64. In other words, she's a normal teen

Big deal.

[JVS]

90. A normal fuck up

[cbc5g]

66. Yeah, I smoke too...so?

Alaska is cool like that since marijuana is mildly accepted there unlike most of the lower 48.

[Blue_In_AK]

86. Not mildly accepted.

It's accepted by just about everybody. As an example, I personally have smoked pot with several members of the Alaska bar and our judiciary up to the highest levels. It's not illegal here.

[StarryNite]

74. It's the hypocrisy...

Do as they say, not as they do. Because with this, just as with everything else, they are special. The things that apply to you and I do not apply to them.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

75. I thought pot for personal use was legal in Alaska

Am I wrong? :shrug:

[Blue_In_AK]

87. No, you're not wrong.

We can possess up to an ounce for personal use (or 25 plants) with no criminal penalty at all, not even a citation.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

102. So to be fair this is really a non-issue.

Age aside, that is... :shrug:

[Blue_In_AK]

105. Right.

Her age is the only thing that's an issue, not the pot itself.

[Orsino]

76. She's just building her resume.

Dope now qualifies you for the highest office in the land.

[tuckessee]

77. Big Fucking Deal. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

78. Her mom has admitted that she's smoked too.

Just legalize it and get it over with. The tax revenue will help pay for all these bailouts. We need every dime we can get right now.

[varun]

108. She smoked it, but does not want anyone else to smoke pot

therein lies the hypocrisy

:eyes:

[onenote]

119. Does that make any candidate who smoked or snorted a hypocrite

if they don't support decriminalization/legalization?

[Blue_In_AK]

79. No big deal.

Everybody here smokes pot. It's not illegal in this state. Now, if she was smoking crack or meth, that would be another matter.

[Midlodemocrat]

98. But, isn't Wasilla the meth capital of the state?

I thought I read that somewhere. :shrug:

[Blue_In_AK]

101. It is,

but I thought this article was about Bristol smoking marijuana.

[Midlodemocrat]

103. It is. I was just mentioning it. It seems like a coincidence.

that this kid is experimenting with drugs while another is so readily available in her town.

[Alter Ego]

82. Don't care. Her choice--not her fault her mother's a horrible psycho.

[johnlal]

93. Why does Bristol get all the heat?

What about Track, Blanket, Doorknob and Chud? Come on tabloids! Spread it around a little.

[pointsoflight]

110. The only issue I have with that...

...is if she won't share. C'mon man, pass it over.

[krkaufman]

113. Fortunately, our economic meltdown is going to result in the legalization ...

... of marijuana, as a means to earn money.

[judasdisney]

115. Economic meltdown? What economic meltdown?

[last_texas_dem]

116. Hey, at least she's not on meth!

Well, as far as I know, at least...

[FrenchieCat]

117. Giant distraction.....

[Flagg]

120. A good Christian girl...