Ah the talking heads.. guess who's guilty for this mess?

[nadinbrzezinski]

You'd think Gramn, deregulation... those things right?

You'd be WRONG... according to the talking heads it is either the Murican people en mass... or all them loans given to minorities who were not qualified... depends on how much race they want to inject into this

So now you know it... it is us

:sarcasm:

[fascisthunter]

1. Criminals Always Blame the Victim

"I raped her, because she was wearing that dress... I had no other choice..."

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Yep

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2. Clinton

Rule #1 of the pukes: One of the Clintons is always responsible for anything that happens that is bad.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. The amazing thing is that this has shifted... I guess that dog don't haunt

no more....

It is now US...

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5. You're right... I haven't heard "Clinton Recession / Bush Boom" for a while.

[doc03]

6. I heard right wing nut job Mike McConnel

today spreading that one, that must be the talking points memo today. He was blaming the Democrats, claiming that the lenders have to give blacks loans regardless of their ability to pay back. A banker called in and he said that is not true, he said if a lender uses that practice the government will not guarantee the loan. Then a black women called in and he asked her if she had to put her race on the application and she said no. Then he said when she talked to the loan officer that I bet it was noted on the application. Even after two callers telling him he was full of crap he goes on claiming that it started with Jimmy Carter, he made some kind of change where blacks get priority. Then Bill Clinton and Barney Frank pushed another one through that said blacks don't need collateral or ability to pay back. The he says I need some more bankers to call in, I guess until one agrees with him. That was when I just shut it off before I threw my XM radio out the window.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Well yes, I am not surprised that is the talking point

but we need to fight them... their world is falling apart

Think of it... the whole theory is going to hell and a hand basket

[alsame]

8. It's all the fault of greedy poor people who

wanted houses. :sarcasm:
Seriously, I heard a repuke talking head say this yesterday - not everyone deserves a house, some people have to rent forever.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Well I am not shocked they are going there

but hey... on the bright side, some of their listeners may be suffering a bad case of cognitive dissonance

[BlooInBloo]

9. They're 1/2 right....

Irresponsible lenders lending to irresponsible borrowers.

The first 1/2 is deregulation. The second 1/2 is what it is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. I know they are PARTIALLY RIGHT, but would not go that far

the lenders lied to many of these folks... so yes, you are also blaming victims here

Should they know better? Yes

Are we preparing people to be able to know better?

No

[AlCzervik]

10. Greenspan also sucks the large one. He loved those bad loans so much he wanted to f*ck them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. You know TO A POINT I am sorry friedman died six months ago

I mean, if he lived long enough he'd see the result of his fundamentalism

(and then go and try to splain to people why we need to further deregulate)

[butterfly77]

12. Where are all of those tapes with bush bragging...

about minorities and others who now own homes,he said it over and over just like he kept saying "remember its your money" when he wanted to put social security in the stock market...

[AlCzervik]

15. lookee here from the moonie owned Washington times

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2004/aug/12/20040812-123640-1352r/

[butterfly77]

18. This should be passed around as a reminder...

for those who didn't know and for those who forgot..

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. I'm sure on you tube

[earth mom]

17. Yep-the "personal responsibility" meme is rearing it's ugly head again.

Those bastards really have a lot of nerve trying to pin it on the people instead of the real criminals! :grr:

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19. From Bob Brinker on his Money talk program

It's Bill Clinton and Phil Gram's fault for causing it. Now the Democrats want to add a stimulus package to this driving up the deficit. One trillion dollars is OK for Wall Street a stimulus package to give a little money back to taxpayers will drive up deficit. He is also blaming Joe Biden for saying it's patriotic to pay more taxes. These goddamn thieves steal 1 trillion dollars for us and now they should help pay it back. This is the guy that said over and over back in 1992 that Bill Clinton didn't have a clue about the economy, he said Clinton increasing the tax on the rich would cause a depression.

[earth mom]

21. Wall Street, the rethugs and big business are nothing but a bunch of criminals.

:grr:

[PsN2Wind]

20. I saw a couple of guys on MSNBC

wearing suits and ties probably worth more than my car, explaining how it was my fault.