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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:01 PM
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Calling FDR ! Calling FDR ! We need someone to save capitalism again...
Many folks attribute FDR with saving capitalism during the 1930's. Many folks were joining the Communist Party. Unions were very popular with the working class. When the Wall St crash happened in '29, many citizens were ready to give up on capitalism. They stood on street corners selling apples and pencils to try and make a dime. They stood in soup lines to feed their hungry bellies. The wealthy ignored their plight.

The common folks were ready for big change. Screw the capitalists! They had had enough. But along came FDR to offer some crumbs to the working people, even a program called Social Security, which would guarantee a small stipend for our older workers, so that they would not be dependent upon their children or society for survival. He offered to give the poor working class jobs through the WPA program. He restored enough hope for capitalism to survive.

And now, we find ourselves at a similar crossroads. People are discouraged and disenchanted with the wealthy capitalists. Once again, they take everything and ignore the plight of the average American. The wealthy bankers and politicians hope to save capitalism by themselves. However, they will need a leader to help save the system once again. Calling FDR! Mayday! Mayday!
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:13 PM
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1. I say screw the capitalists once again
AND NATIONALIZE ALL FUTURE ENERGY PROGRAMS.

As well as health insurance.

FUCK those guys
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:25 PM
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2. Capitalism ain't worth saving...
the silly fuckers who embrace it most abuse it.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:25 PM
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3. Posted on DU somewhere earlier...
"Roosevelt is dead. His policies may live on, but we're in the process of doing something about that as well". ---Rush Limbaugh

Just can't get enough of that deregulation stuff, eh, Rush?
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:10 PM
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8. Well coming from a druggie like Rush who would like Oxycontin sold OTC.
yeah that's deregulation for you, El Rushbo.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:45 PM
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4. But Roosevelt sold himself as a Populist.
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 04:59 PM by fla nocount
He wasn't what he seemed and early on gave up the primary lever to control by admitting, "all we have to fear is fear itself."

He also had self-serving administrators like LBJ to oversee the make work programs and true heroes in powerful positions like Sam Rayburn who promised to drag him through the mud if he didn't placate people's movements like the Grange. Then there were the trusted artists like Woody Guthrie to document and promote the movement.

By the time that FDR was effecting a change he had a populace who had grown proficient at living skinny and had developed a sub-culture of self-sufficiency and distrust for "the man." He wasn't saving many of these folk, he was courting them.

And least we forget, he had Eleanor.

But before any of these "changes" came about, the "financial system" as it were, had completely and irrecoverably fallen apart. He wasn't building from scratch but he was building from the ashes of a totally different system, hence the social programs and regulations on corporate interests that had never before existed nor dreamed of. It was what was necessary to get us back in the store after the crooks had walked out the door.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:48 PM
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5. Indeed.
But he had enough sense not to try and swim against the tide. Changes had to be made and he made just enough to save capitalism.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:57 PM
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6. Capitalism needs to be dissolved ...
it's the cause of economic disequilibrium.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:09 PM
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7. I would agree that we need a new economic system..
The present economic system is a threat to our present political system. We need an economic system that is more egalitarian, thru taxes or however. We need an economic system with regulations to prevent the wealthy from sticking it to the rest of us. We need an economic system that will encourage a wider middle class and a smaller upper and lower class society. We need stronger anti-monopoly laws. We need to break up companies that are "too big to fail". We need an economic system that respects labor and unions more. The present economic capitalism does none of the above. We need big change.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:18 PM
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9. We need anarchy...
in the respect that it applies to the total destruction of royalty and inherited privilege from family connections and cronyism. Electing our leaders based on name recognition is a sign of a truly idiotic voting populace.

Mooooooooo, Bahhhhhhhh, bang bang.........out go the lights.

Yummm, this is good. I'm so glad that good ol' Dad died and left this all for me. Thanks Dad, and Grandpa, thank you too. I'll remember you both in my prayers tonight, life is so sweet, and I'll thank the Lord and the Sweet, Sweet Jeebus for the privilege of my birth for otherwise I might have been born one of "THEM."

Anarchy has been given a bad rap by the politically/historically ignorant. It's not a club, not a religion, not a protest group, it's a reaction by players who have seen the field. No one wants to be an anarchist.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:24 PM
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10. You RANG? check out my Avatar....Ohhh how long will it be.......n/t
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