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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:03 PM
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Do you all know what Osama Bin Laden's PRIMARY GOAL was when he attacked on 9/11?
Was it to kill as many Americans as possible?
Was it to get American troops out of Saudi Arabia?
Was it to expose American hypocrisy?
Was it to incite a Middle Eastern war?

The answer to all the above questions is "yes". He has succeeded in every single one of those things, thanks to George W. Bush.

But do you know what his primary goal was? It was to bring about a total collapse of the American economy.

Is he succeeding?

Thank you, Republican party for helping the terrorists.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:05 PM
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1. You give him too much credit . . .
He wanted to kick over the anthill. Never in his wildest dreams could he have imagined Bush and Co. would behave so stupidly. He put down a one dollar bet and won a billion.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:17 PM
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7. The OP is entirely correct. This was his stated goal.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:37 PM
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10. And 9/11 didn't do it. It took Bush to magnify the effect of 9/11 . . .
to get us to the firestorm we're experiencing now.

Do you think that bin Laden had so thoroughly sussed Bush out that he expected the kind of idiocy we've seen? I don't think so. The in-built resilience (not to mention sheer size) of the American economy guaranteed that 9/11 would have limited effect. It took a Bush to turn a disaster into a catastrophe.
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:50 PM
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22. Ironically, if Al Qaida had completely wiped out Wall Street on 9/11/01,
It would have been considerably less costly to the USA than the current bailouts.

:nuke:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:06 PM
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2. Iirc, that's exactly what he said. n/t
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:07 PM
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3. To see us fall just like the Soviet Union did - and he has succeeded at that too
They went broke because of corruption and a war they never should have been in - us too.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:08 PM
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4. Bankrupting America... looks like Bin Laden and Grover Norquist had the Same...
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 05:09 PM by fascisthunter
objective. Gee, what a surprise.....


Oh and thanks to all Milton Friedman idiots and thieves.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:11 PM
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5. Don't forget "Take Away Our 'Freedoms'"....
Mission accomplished - thanks to W.

Yes. W. has far surpassed bin Laden's goals in every way.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:16 PM
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6. GOP: the party that destroyed our country.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 08:54 PM
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24. Forget about Bin Laden. It's been Reagan all along.

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:17 PM
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8. Perhaps it was simply a case of an old family friend and business partner
doing a favor for the Bush Crime Family?

That is if Osama was involved at all. Just last week, the spin from Bush Crime Family headquarters (via Dana Perino) was that it was all Khalid Sheik Yer Bouti Mohammed (who confessed under torture to 9-11, killing JFK, breaking up the Beatles, breaking into the Watergate Hotel in 1972, kidnapping the Lindbergh baby, firing the cannon on Fort Sumter and pretty much every other evil deed in the history of this country.)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:11 PM
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12. I see Bin Laden as the court jester
who is allowed to say some of the truth in jest so that it can discredited.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:21 PM
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9. Exactly
You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:07 PM
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11. Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S {CNN}
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 06:13 PM by CJCRANE
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy".

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/



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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:37 PM
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13. Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks September 17, 2001
Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks

September 17, 2001 Posted: 11:21 AM EDT (1521 GMT)

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/index.html
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:41 PM
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15. That was the 2001 model.
The '04 "October Surprise" model was fully onboard with the program.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:06 PM
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28. Is this the model you are referring to?
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 09:06 PM by Texas Explorer
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 11:09 PM
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32. I always "forget" that part. (slaps forehead). Thanks CJC, I never could
keep them all straight!

And the one that died of kidney failure in Dec. of 2001? What about him?

You were just not that concerned about him until recently, again, eh, * ya' asshole.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:40 PM
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14. that's why we haven't been attacked
bin-laden doesn't have to attack to kill our country - bush and repubs are doing it for him
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:22 PM
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16. His goals are clear and clearly stated by him
1) to remove US troops from the Arabian peninsula (done)
2) to spark the overthrow of Saddam Houssein, preferably paid for with "infidel" blood and treasure (done)
3) to spark a regional war against Israel (less successful)

His attack was audacious and in some ways spectacularly successful. However, UBL aligned himself with the Palestinian cause at a particularly unfortunate time to do that (and in fairness most Palestinians consider him an Osama-come-lately and don't trust his pan-Islamic bent). That he set back the cause of Palestinian statehood by two decades is the dilemma all radicals face; that the streets of Jordan, Syria, and Egypt seem more or less content with a more-or-less official detente with Israel is essentially a blow from which his movement cannot recover, which is why it was ultimately a mistake to align himself with Palestinian nationalism: he should have realized all the other Arabs sold out the Palestinians decades ago.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:34 PM
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21. exactly! nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:10 PM
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30. True. But if you view Bin Laden as a Bush puppet, the OP works just fine as written.
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 10:17 PM by glitch
I certainly do.

edit: although I don't actually believe he or his minions had much to do with 9/11, other than as creepy, double-plus evil, stooges.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:29 PM
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18. OBL did not attack on 9/11...
the FBI has no evidence to charge him with that and he said he had http://www.pbs.org/flashpointsusa/20040629/infocus/topic_01/timeline_sep2001.html">nothing to do with it! :shrug:
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:30 PM
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19. Easy. It was to get Saddam killed.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:34 PM
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20. I hope it turns around after the bailout. I really hope so.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:57 PM
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23. Oh , horse shit, he had been a CIA Op for the last 11 years and was
the son of one of Poppy's best friends, like J. Hinkley. He was in a U.S. military hospital in Dubai as recently as June of 2001 for dialysis. Do your own Google...KoolAid.

We don't have to look outside our own borders for any disruption within. Stop being distracted.




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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:03 PM
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29. well said! nt
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An Intellectual Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 08:58 PM
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25. His goal was to help his Muslin son Obama win the 2008 election; the only way to stop it...
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 08:59 PM by An Intellectual
... is to vote for the honorable McCain!

Expect that narrative to emerge on Faux within the next month. ;)
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:00 PM
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26. Bin laden did not attack us on 9/11/01. He even said so, twice. n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:03 PM
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27. K&R
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:22 PM
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31. I don't buy into the Osama bin Laden b.s. Look for the REAL criminals in Washington DC. nt
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:01 AM
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33. Gives a whole new meaning to foolproof.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:17 AM
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34. He actually wanted to draw the US into a long, costly, protracted battle
Just like the Soviets in Afghanistan.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:08 PM
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35. Al-Qaeda is a faction of the Saudi royal family and its intelligence services. Bushco is its agent.
Mission Accomplished.

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BrainStorm Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:09 PM
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36. Treasonous
And our Democratic leadership is just giving it a free pass.
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