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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:22 AM
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Paulson: What I do with the $700B cannot be questioned by courts or Congress or anyone.

Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.


This is not just a blank check. A blank check has no restrictions on how it is spent, but blank checks can be audited. Even the blank checks given to Halliburton are open to audits.



And Schumer is right now arm-twisting Dems into signing onto this?

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:32 AM
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1. Aw, has Dick been tutoring him?
Doesn't this make Paulson bigger than all three branches of government?
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:37 AM
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2. "And Schumer is right now arm-twisting Dems into signing onto this? "
Yep... the very same Schumer who gave us Mukasey...

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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:40 AM
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3. Debt - 596 Trillion Derivatives - 58 Trillion Credit Default Swaps - 2.5 Trillion Credit Card
What is 700B gonna Buy You?

See www.wallstreetdigest.com/hotline.php
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:44 AM
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4. With the inflation this bailout will cause...
before long, 700B will get you little more than a nice dinner.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:51 AM
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5. Or it could buy nothing
The way this bill is written, Paulson could divvy up the $700B between his closest family and friends with no one being allowed to say word one.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:42 AM
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6. Congress doesn't have the power under the Constitution to
enact a law which cannot be reviewed by the courts.

When are the assclowns in Congress going to wake up?

Surely, surely our "leaders" and Members of Congress won't go along with this.

If they do, the no longer deserve our support.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:57 AM
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7. so much for transparency and accountability
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 06:00 AM by radfringe
translation: Paulson - what I'm going to do is illegal, and I don't want to be bothered with pesky things like laws, and regulations.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:59 AM
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8. Is Paulson Afraid Of Personal Responsibility
Seems so. Why are only the poor held to that standard?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:02 AM
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9. The last sentence is the most terrifying.
Schumer is right now arm-twisting Dems into signing onto this? I will have to do some google on this guy.

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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:18 AM
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10. What if he decided to buy a piece of gum from his wife for $700B
Would that be non-reviewable? Seems so. That's a lot of trust to put in one man.
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:45 AM
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11. Trust in an Appointed Man!
Former CEO of Goldman Sachs...appointed by Dubya...

Remember the billions of dollars that just plain disappeared in Iraq? Why would we allow this to happen again?!
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:03 AM
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12. This is not limited to $700bn. It is unlimited:
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 07:04 AM by Ghost Dog
See here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x385679#386171

Paulson can buy and sell as much as he likes, as long as there is no more than $700bn outstanding on his books at any one time:

...

Sec. 2. Purchases of Mortgage-Related Assets.

(a) Authority to Purchase.—The Secretary is authorized to purchase, and to make and fund commitments to purchase, on such terms and conditions as determined by the Secretary, mortgage-related assets from any financial institution having its headquarters in the United States.

...

Sec. 5. Rights; Management; Sale of Mortgage-Related Assets.

...

(c) Sale of Mortgage-Related Assets.—The Secretary may, at any time, upon terms and conditions and at prices determined by the Secretary, sell, or enter into securities loans, repurchase transactions or other financial transactions in regard to, any mortgage-related asset purchased under this Act.

...

Sec. 6. Maximum Amount of Authorized Purchases.

The Secretarys authority to purchase mortgage-related assets under this Act shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding at any one time.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:25 AM
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13. But if he manages to sell the assets, then he would actually be doing his job
The amount that can be 'thrown away' (diverted to wherever he likes, as long as he manages to call it a purchase of a 'mortgage-backed asset') is $700 billion. Which is still more money that anyone's been given before.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:40 AM
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15. Depends what remains 'on his books', doesn't it?
And, on the books: Say he buys for 700 (taxpayers' cash), sells for 500. Net result negative 200. Now he can pump in another 500 fresh from taxpayers. for new purchases. (total 1200 so far) And so on and on... And if he manages to make a profit, he can go back to taxpeyers for more than 700.

The only limit here is what's outstanding at any given time.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:37 AM
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14. I fucking hate Schumer.
What a fucking hack. Are NYers idiots or something ?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:54 AM
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16. That ain't no damned typo!
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:17 AM
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17. delete
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 08:23 AM by Xap
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