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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:56 AM
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Europeans on left and right ridicule U.S. money meltdown
Source: LA Times


Europeans on left and right ridicule U.S. money meltdown

They list greed and Greenspan among the culprits, and there are comparisons to . . . Albania. But amid the gloating, there is fear for financial systems in Britain, Spain, Italy and elsewhere.
By Sebastian Rotella and Janet Stobart, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
September 20, 2008
LONDON -- It's a rare day when finance officials, leftist intellectuals and ordinary salespeople can agree on something. But the economic meltdown that wrought its wrath from Rome to Madrid to Berlin this week brought Europeans together in a harsh chorus of condemnation of the excess and disarray on Wall Street.

The finance minister of Italy's conservative and pro-U.S. government warned of nothing less than a systemic breakdown. Giulio Tremonti excoriated the "voracious selfishness" of speculators and "stupid sluggishness" of regulators. And he singled out Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, with startling scorn.


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"Greenspan was considered a master," Tremonti declared. "Now we must ask ourselves whether he is not, after bin Laden, the man who hurt America the most. . . . It is clear that what is happening is a disease. It is not the failure of a bank, but the failure of a system. Until a few days ago, very few were willing to realize the intensity and the dramatic nature of the crisis."

In an interview Thursday in the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, Tremonti drew a comparison to corruption-ridden Albania in 1997, when a nationwide pyramid scheme cost hundreds of thousands of people their savings and ignited anarchic civil conflict






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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:11 AM
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1. So, . . can we assume less investment in the USA from Europeans in the future?
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I think so.

The USA has shot itself in the foot,

well . . .

maybe BOTH feet.

And as I said before, and will repeat . . .

China and Russia are watching,

and waiting . . .
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:38 AM
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7. we blew off both legs and are still trying to tap dance. nt
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:41 AM
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2. And why the drudge links? No thank you.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:49 AM
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3. I like this description..."voracious selfishness"
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:54 AM
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4. My local NPR station, WCQS,
Plays the BBC morning show from midnight to five am. They did a story on the melt down last night. I felt so ashamed for us when I listened. It sounds so much worst when you hear someone else talking about it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:18 AM
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5. Osama bin Greenspan.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:33 AM
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6. They're probably next. n/t
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:44 AM
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8. awww BS - they, too, have been greedily grabbing pieces of this pie
and that is why they are also scared.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:47 AM
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10. Nailed it...
To believe this is only a U.S. phenomenon is a new exercise in sticking heads in the sand.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:51 AM
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11. of course they are scare, why bother buying stock in euros when investors can get them for pennies
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 10:52 AM by AlphaCentauri
we are about to become to them what China is to us.

Cheap goods.....
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edwardian Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:21 PM
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12. It is conceivable
that Europeans have come to trust American leadership on many issues, finance included. They were surely aware of the unregulated nature of American financial markets, but deemed to remain silent about the consequences while they waited to reap the benefits of these new financial tools. Greed certainly played into it, but the issue of trust should also have played into it. Can't trust Americans is now the mantra...over here.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:13 PM
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13. "Can't trust Americans is now the mantra...over here." - good idea
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BUT

I'd like to put in a plug for US_American citizens.

It's the government and financial gangs that are causing the problem,

but the citizens are too lazy or dumb to vote properly.

I really don't know the solution to the US-American problem.

Maybe someone should invade the USA??

USA seems to think that's the way to "fix" other countries . . .

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:46 AM
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9. apparantly everyone else understands that the fundamentals are NOT sound.
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