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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:35 PM
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Naomi Klein AND Naomi Wolf On TYT On The Shock Doctrine, The Wall Street Crisis & Freedom
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 04:36 PM by ihavenobias


Naomi Wolf, author of Give Me Liberty, joins Cenk and .


PS---

And if you haven't already, make sure you to everyone you know.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:38 PM
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1. Cool -- thanks! nt
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:44 PM
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2. Ihnb - Thanks for posting Naomi x 2. (Is there a stickie that shows blood boiling?)
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:18 PM
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5. Blood boiling...
no, I don't think so, but I understand your anger.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:52 PM
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3. The Naomis are two of the most eloquent, brilliant, principled thinkers, kinda like Sarah Palin
:sarcasm:
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:55 PM
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4. K&R- Both Naomis kick ass.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:17 PM
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43. Yeah, it's very cool to have both on in the same show n/t
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:55 PM
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6. Must watch!
Thanks for posting.

:toast:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:54 PM
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14. Thanks for rating
:)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:06 PM
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7. Great work!!!! K&R!!!!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:06 PM
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8. Rally on Wall Street Thursday
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:06 PM
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18. k & r
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:30 PM
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9. K&R
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:58 PM
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10. k&r for naomi and the other naomi
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:30 PM
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13. Naomi Wolf - The End of America
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:02 PM
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17. Thanks for the link n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:22 PM
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11. K&R
:kick:
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:24 PM
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12. thank you for the links!!! K & R n/t
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biggerfishsmallpond Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:06 PM
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15. kick
get educated
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:49 AM
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45. You're such an elitist.
Just kidding. :hi:

Mostly I wanted an excuse to kick this thread.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:15 PM
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16. Cool!
Thanks for posting!

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:08 PM
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19. Great job.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 09:09 PM by mmonk
a must read.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:37 PM
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20. Most important thread today.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:19 PM
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21. These are critical issues, I agree n/t
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:07 AM
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22. None more important.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:51 AM
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31. Not judging by the views, that's for sure
:(
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:17 AM
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23. Excellent. Thanks
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:46 AM
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24. K&R
Great interviews. Certainly made me think of implications I hadn't before. What a mess.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:50 AM
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25. Sample letter on Bailout to Send to members of Congress
Dear __________,

I am deeply disturbed at hearing Rep. Frank on Countdown describing the "oversight" Congress is proposing for the bailout plan as a board, funded by Congress rather than the Treasury, Fed, or financial institutions, that would be able to "ask" Treasury after the fact what was paid for each asset purchase, and for an explanation of why that was the right price. Neither this board, nor Congress, would have any ability to halt a purchase even if the price is drastically off, or change the individuals making the pricing decisions. We've had eight years of government officials being publicly exposed for wrongdoing and continuing the same actions anyway, in effect saying, "So you (Congress) don't like it and the public doesn't like it, but you can't do anything about it, so we don't care." In light of this history, and Paulson's recently exposed corruption, this is beyond inadequate and into the realm of stage dressing.

Pres. Hoover tried throwing money at the banks to deal with defaults arising from a troubled economy and it failed utterly. More recently Japan tried to cope with a serious recession by doing the same and found it useless. The financial institutions and their employees are as wrong on this as a solution as they were on mortgage-backed securities and derivatives. I also hear that requiring equity rather than asset purchases is no longer being considered; the taxpayers deserve having this reopened, especially in light of the debt too huge to rescue in the form of "credit default swaps".

The only obligation you have is to leave the next President enough money and borrowing power to rescue the economy by other, "New Deal"-style means after this fails. If excess borrowing to finance this moneypit is extreme enough to tank the dollar, the gov't will be broke just when the economy desperately needs help.

Sincerely,
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:04 AM
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30. Correction to first line of letter
"as a board" should read "is a board
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:34 PM
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33. That middle part is very interesting, providing historical context
I wish there were some links in it (on Hoover, Japan, etc.).
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:22 PM
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34. O.K.
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 02:37 PM by clear eye
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/22/business/fi-31522

This article from 1998 outlines what both Japan and Hoover did that didn't stop either problem. Japan ended up nationalizing their two largest investment banks, and of course FDR realized that direct help to citizens w/ mortgage refinances and job stimulus programs were needed. I'll try to get links for the Japanese nationalizations and add them w/an edit.

Edit: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-19429356.html

Also, neither the Japanese program, nor the RFC authorized the purchase of bad assets. They made loans to the troubled financial houses. They didn't bankrupt the Treasuries of their respective countries, so the governments of each were still able to employ other means afterwards to improve their economies.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:56 PM
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36. Thanks, I'll check these out n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:50 AM
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26. K & R!
Turned on a stranger named Lyle to N.K. today. He just stopped in to say he liked my politics of traveling billboards! :D So I was nearly late to work discussing all of it with him and left him with the departing shot of N.K. The secrecy and the decision to stop publication of the M3 reved his interest. I should start charging commission. :P
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 04:58 AM
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27. K & R
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:25 AM
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28. morning kick
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:34 AM
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29. Strong kick eom
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:37 PM
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32. Bump!
:kick:
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:27 PM
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35. Yar! It's a must watch/must read thing, alright. n/t
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:07 PM
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37. Kickiddy Recciddy!
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srf Rantz Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:50 PM
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38. no sound
can't get any sound!

been looking for the past couple days for anything from both Naomi's
this is the first I've found from Naomi wolf.

any other links to this video elsewhere?
I tried all the ones I could find on turks site, same thing. no sound.

my sound works for all other videos there, so not my computer
help!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:55 PM
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39. So this link doesn't work for you?
http://youngturks.wmod.llnwd.net/a591/o1/9-22-08Wolf.wmv

It works fine for me, it opens up in Windows Media Player and the sound is great. What program are you opening it with? Maybe the mute button is selected only on that program?
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srf Rantz Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:52 PM
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40. link works, sound doesn't
windows media player opens and plays the video but no sound, mute is off. volumne full.
works fine for anything else.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:09 PM
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41. I don't know then, it works for me...
Can you play anything else in Windows Media Player with sound?
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:19 PM
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42. Bump!
:kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:20 PM
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44. Kick
Must read
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:13 AM
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46. Duplicate Comment
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 10:14 AM by ihavenobias
:)
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:13 AM
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47. Thanks, even though it's technically "must watch"...
:)
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