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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:43 PM
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John McCain: Viet Cong Collaborator
http://www.alternet.org/story/99663/



Republicans Allege McCain Covered Up His Collaboration with the North Vietnamese While a POW
By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet
September 21, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/99663/
A 1992 video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g featuring a Republican senator, Republican congressman and top Capitol Hill staffers who worked on Vietnam prisoner of war and missing in action issues say John McCain collaborated with North Vietnamese while a POW, and then covered up that involvement to the detriment of POW/MIA families seeking access to classified Pentagon records about their own family members.


The video raises probing questions about the 2008 Republican presidential nominee's war record, especially after McCain made his captivity a major part of his qualifications for the presidency at the Republican National Convention. In 2004, the GOP focused on Democratic nominee John Kerry's war record to criticize his candidacy.

To date, the video has been posted on a handful of blogs but has been ignored by the mainstream media. While it features Republican stalwarts on POW/MIA issues, it also suggests that McCain's war records at the Pentagon and in North Vietnam would reveal potentially very controversial details about the GOP's presidential candidate.

The nearly eight-minute video is posted on YouTube under "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain." It begins with the title, "1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIAs," and features ex-Sen. Bob Smith (R-NH), Rep. Robert Dornan (R-CA), senate staffers Tracy Usry, James Lucier, and military family members Lynn O'Shea, of the National Alliance of Families and retired Army Cpl. Bob Dumas, whose brother was a POW lost in the Korean War, and Joseph Douglass, Jr., author of Betrayed, about America's missing POWs. The video has no author credits.

The footage begins with Douglass, Usry, O'Shea and Smith all saying that McCain worked to kill legislation that would have opened the Pentagon's classified archive of POW/MIA files. "Many, many documents were held back for no reason," former Sen. Smith said. Dorman said legislation that passed the House with no opposing votes was single-handedly blocked in the Senate by McCain. "On the Senate side, we had one person standing in the way," Dornan said, referring to McCain.

Dumas then gave the reason why - the Pentagon's records would reveal McCain had collaborated with the Vietnamese. "He didn't want nobody to check his background because a lot of POWs who were with him in the camp said he was a collaborator with the enemy," Dumas said. "He gave the enemy information they wanted."

Lucier, identified as a former U.S. Senate Chief of Staff, said "we do know that when he was over there, he cooperated with Communist news services in giving interviews that were not flattering to the United States." Usry, identified as U.S. Senate Minority Staff former chief investigator, said "information shows that he made over 32 tapes of propaganda for the Vietnamese government."

Dornan said there were transcripts of other POWs reacting to McCain's false statements, saying, "Oh my God, is that Admiral McCain's son Is that the admiral's son? Is that Johnny, telling us that our principle targets are schools, orphanages, hospitals, temples, churches? That was Jane Fonda's line." Dornan said those transcripts are in war museums in North Vietnam, where McCain, as a senator, pressured the country not to release them or face opposition concerning normalization of relations with the United States.

"McCain could not have wanted those to turn up in the middle of a presidential race," the ex-congressman said. "He knows that. I know that. And a few other people know that. That's why he was against Bob Dole's legislation."

Dornan then offered another interesting explanation why McCain refused an offer by the North Vietnamese to be released. Dornan said those released first were collaborators, which would have ended McCain's military career and hurt the Navy, where his father commanded the Pacific fleet.

"Nobody takes that one step beyond that," Dornan said, speaking of McCain's refusal to be released. "If Admiral John McCain's son had accepted this princely status and come home in 1967, while others sat there for five years, what would the Navy have done with the son of an admiral who opted to get special treatment and come home? No Navy career. No House seat. No Senate seat. It would have been the end of his career."

Steven Rosenfeld is a Senior Fellow at AlterNet.org, where he reports on elections from a voting rights perspective. His books include Count My Vote: A Citizen's Guide to Voting (AlterNet Books, 2008), What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election (The New Press, 2006), and Making History in Vermont: The Election of a Socialist to Congress (Hollowbrook Publishing, 1992). An award-winning journalist, he has been a staff reporter at National Public Radio, Monitor Radio, TomPaine.com, and at daily and weekly newspapers in Vermont.

© 2008 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:49 PM
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1. would that make McCain a stoolie.. or would he be a snitch ?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:59 PM
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2. For the honor and memory of all POW's and MIA's, this needs to get media attention.
McAnus is a scoundrel who has used his POW status to climb to within inches of the Presidency.

Bring him down now.


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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:57 AM
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3. Yes I agree totally
In honor of all the men who did NOT give up secrets and died a painful death for their loyalty, we MUST stop his lying and exploiting of the Viet Nam War for his personal gain. It was different with Kerry, because he really WAS a hero!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 04:14 AM
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4. The so-called "Viet Cong" (the NLF) were indigenous to the southern part of Vietnam
McCain dealt solely with regular military of the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN). Since there was never a country called North Vietnam, there could never have been a "North Vietnamese Army," except in the imagination of American propagandists.

Just sayin'...
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:09 AM
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5. Your subject line conveys the fact you have zero knowledge
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 05:23 AM by Crabby Appleton
of the subject, as does the author of the linked-to article; the Viet Cong and North Vietnam are two different things.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:26 AM
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7. Crabby and Alcibiades are both technically correct. The troops in the field called the North
Vietnamese army NVA or regulars and the Viet Cong were VC, but all of them were gooks to us. (We did NOT do politically correct.)

While the poster's lead-in did imply the wrong thing, he/she is well-intentioned and the information in question, as far as I can tell, is accurate and substantiated. So, please, let's not let one error overshadow the importance of this information. Of course, it will never be shown on any mainstream corporate media, so it's up to us to make it viral on the internets.




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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:27 PM
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11. Thanks
I appreciate what you said. Yes, I may have a few facts wrong but the basic information of exactly WHAT J.McCain did in the war needs to get out there.
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:25 PM
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10. Thank you. I will try and remember that.
I was just a kid when the war was on. But you're right. I need to read up more on it.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:18 AM
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6. I was told when Rush Limbaugh had a trace of integrity he railed against McCain in 1999/2000
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 05:21 AM by Snotcicles
He was hammering on McCain when he ran against Bush. So were his listeners. What happened?
I'll bet some good investigators could dig up some great audio of him ripping into McCain.
Now would be great time to visit the archives.
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:38 AM
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8. Well here are all the neocons expressing disgust with McCain in 2000.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:51 AM
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9. K&MR!1 n/t
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