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susanbanks44 Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:55 PM
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Miners plan work stoppage over anti-Obama film
CHARLESTON, W.Va. – (AP)Union leaders say a National Rifle Association film crew tried to coerce West Virginia miners into bad-mouthing presidential hopeful Barack Obama on camera, and that the union plans a brief work stoppage in protest.

The United Mine Workers will call for the stoppage at Consol’s Blacksville No. 2 mine next week, union President Cecil Roberts said Monday at a news conference with representatives of Obama's West Virginia campaign in Charleston.
Roberts said the union, which has endorsed Democrat Obama for president, is unhappy that Consol allowed the camera crew to ask miners leading questions about the candidate such as:
"What do you think about losing your Second Amendment rights?"

"This, I think, is an attempt to try to twist the facts here," he said. "We're just hoping people aren't misled."

The NRA has not endorsed a candidate. But it is sharply critical of Obama, calling him a "lying rabble rouser" on its Web site and claiming he has supported numerous antigun measures.


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http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/13742/
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:56 PM
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1. Awesome. n/t
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:57 PM
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2. Good fot them NT
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susanbanks44 Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:04 PM
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3. My cousin works for them and he told me basically the same thing about the NRA film crew.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:45 PM
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4. "What do you think about losing your Second Amendment rights?"
"Have you beat your wife lately?"

From the Infidel.org Logic and Fallacies website: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#complexq

Complex question / Fallacy of interrogation / Fallacy of presupposition

This is the interrogative form of Begging the Question. One example is the classic loaded question:

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

The question presupposes a definite answer to another question which has not even been asked. This trick is often used by lawyers in cross-examination, when they ask questions like:

"Where did you hide the money you stole?"

Similarly, politicians often ask loaded questions such as:

"How long will this EU interference in our affairs be allowed to continue?"

or

"Does the Chancellor plan two more years of ruinous privatization?"

Another form of this fallacy is to ask for an explanation of something which is untrue or not yet established.

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