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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:54 AM
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I just read Naomi Klein's artcle about Palin
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 09:55 AM by tavalon
She's fairly convinced that Palin is to be the pretty figurehead of a police state. While I agree with her regarding the fact that we are becoming fascist, I don't feel we're as far down the road as she does. But, in the event that she is right, this venue will be fairly rapidly cut off. How would you contact fellow DUers who would, in that environment, become rebels, I'm sure. But divided we are conquered.

Has anyone given any thought to this? You don't have to elaborate of course. I'm just putting out feelers to see if I'm the only freak musing about this.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:56 AM
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1. I think that was Naomi Wolfe
I confuse them too.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:57 AM
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3. D'oh yes! Grrr
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:59 AM
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6. Naomi Wolfe and Klein
are NOT interchangeable guys... Neither are Hillary and Palin... :-)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:01 AM
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8. I made an oops
and I happened to order both of their books last night. I know the difference, really I do.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:50 PM
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18. I know, I know...
:hi:
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:57 AM
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2. Do you have a link to this? n/t
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:58 AM
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5. Yeah, sorry, it was on the other DU article I was reading:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:18 AM
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11. Well, that is scary as hell.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:57 AM
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4. Oh no. I have a close friend that I discuss this with frequently
The question is not if the Repugs want to have a police state, but how they will go about installing it. And what will we do. I have been checking out Canada, but my instinct is to stay and fight.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:00 AM
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7. But if you stay, you'll need a network
How will that network communicate with other networks is what I'm trying to surreptitiously say?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:08 AM
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10. yeah we have discussed that a little bit. No answer.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:04 AM
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9. Tavalon, remember the FISA Amendment.
Remember that the content of laptops of citizens, we are talking about people who were born in this country or naturalized after waiting the statutory period, may be copied by Homeland Security agents at the border upon entry to the U.S. in violation of the Fourth Amendment. Guantanamo is still operating and people are still held there without being given their rights. And that FISA Amendment means that we will probably never know how much our government has snooped on us. Yes, dear Tavalon this is a police state.
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:48 AM
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15. After Establishing Communications
Form alliances with Russia, Cuba and Venezuela. They would be the most willing to fight against a fascist America. Europe would follow suit closely behind, but more carefully, less ostensibly.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:20 AM
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12. How do you describe "become rebels?" what would these "rebels" do?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:16 PM
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17. That is a step further than we can go at this juncture
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:22 AM
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13. in the Handmaid's Tale they used the symbol of a wreath


made by twining vines, string, etc.

some small enough for a pocket. some hung as pretty wall hangings.

what would our symbol be?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:25 AM
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14. Photo of the Future or the Past



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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:23 AM
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16. Tin cans and wire. nt
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