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Thu Sep-25-08 09:46 AM
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I'm listening to radio, I'm talking to neighbors, I'm talking to local business folks, I'm talking to Republicans and Democrats and unaffiliateds -- no one is in favor of the "Bush Cronyism Bailout Plan".
And, there is real, genuine anger about this, even with the 'compromises' that allegedly make the bailout more Main Street friendly.
How the backlash will come is anyone's guess, but if it looks like the Congressional Democrats are the prime movers of this plan (along with Bush, for god's sake) then there will be hell to pay.
Why are we hearing that a bill is just about ready and that there are the votes in Congress to pass it?
I'm stunned.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:49 AM
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1. And if Obama inherits it |
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they could lay the blame squarely at our feet, even though they blamed the 9/11 on Clinton and attributed the economic prosperity of the 1990s to Reagan.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:49 AM
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2. I think passing the bill may cause a worse reaction than doing nothing. |
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I think people want to see what the bill looks like.. if its still to similar to what Bush is asking, then I'm affraid that this will be really bad.. these congresscritters will need massive amts of security to protect them, and they may just lose their seats.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:51 AM
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3. Good point but........ |
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it seems like mccain is going to try and play hero in getting this bill done...so if he is going to run on the "it took a maverick" to get it passed then it wont hurt dems....could help mccain though considering how dumb the sheople are!!!
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:52 AM
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4. Why are you under the impression that the Dems are the prime movers? |
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Both Dems and Reps reacted negatively and it was the Dems (I think) who initially put in the safeguards and conditions.
I'm not sure either party is willing to do NOTHING. So, whatever they approve - or don't - will be pretty much bi-partisan, I think.
It's ridiculous to blame the Dems.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:53 AM
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6. Barney Frank was out there saying the House plan will pass no problem |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:55 AM
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8. Pelosi and Reid came out in favor almost immediately, had to pull back when a furor erupted. nt |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:55 AM
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7. "Bipartisan" = "they're BOTH to blame". Why would you think Dems WOULDN'T deserve blame? |
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:20 AM
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13. Agree -- but the entire blame doesn't lie with the Dems was how I |
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:24 AM
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14. It hurts more when someone you trusted screws you. It's human nature. nt |
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:31 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:52 AM
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5. I think the Dems are trying to look like they're on the problem |
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But the perception is that everyone is moving too quickly on this. I want fucking details. At least let us know how and when you're going to fuck us so we can lube up a bit.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:58 AM
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9. "Government CAUSED it" is the meme today from Republicans. |
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Further they are saying the answer is MORE deregulation, "Let the markets work and keep government out of it".
It is a risky proposition. Personally I think they should go with Shuemer's idea of $150 billion to start.
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:41 AM
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19. Almost choked on my coffee this AM when I saw that. Some idiot Pub congresscritter |
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Said Repubs won't vote for the plan until Dems admit that the cause of the problem is too much Gov. Regulation. WE all know that it was the opposite, NO regulation or oversight, in addition to corporate greed, caused the problem. They're trying to blame the whole thing on Fannie & Freddie. As I understand it, Fannie & Freddie didn't even buy the worst of the sub-prime and "creative" mortgage loans.
And people actually believe this shit. We need MORE deregulation?? Dems need to apologize for this? Do they really think Americans are this stupid????? Are they?
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:05 AM
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10. I've written and called my two Democratic Senators and threatened them that I will vote against |
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anybody that supports an administration-based plan. Keep calling and telling them that there is no need to rush through this 'bailout' because Bush is hysteric. We need to look at all alternate plans being proposed by economists around the country. We need to see some proof that credit is drying up. We need a list of whom the administration/Paulson wants to give money to. We need to stop this!
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:12 AM
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11. "compromises that allegedly make the bailout more Main St |
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friendly" is just lip service to passify the ignorant masses. The news that this will pass is PROOF of this. One has to be willfully fucking ignorant not to see the obvious that our side is just as fucking bad on this issue though at least they make an attempt to talk the talk for show at hearings but nobody with half a brain is fooled.
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:17 AM
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12. Repukes win again, this time twice |
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Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 10:17 AM by brandnewlaptop
one, by diluting what should be the best dem election ever
and two, by shoveling even more money to their uber rich wall street friends and corp ceo's, what with their multi multi million salaries and bonus's.
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:26 AM
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15. Bad policy and bad politics. |
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Republicans can run against Democrats who vote for it as big spenders.
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Thu Sep-25-08 10:35 AM
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18. I'm not. I expect the dems to bend over and give bush what he wants. |
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Just like they bend over to fund the Iraq war. Just like they bent over for telecom immunity.
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