ihavenobias
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:05 AM
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Cenk: Let's Get Real, Here is Why McCain Wants to Move the Debate |
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By Cenk Uygur
Let's get real. John McCain didn't ask to move the debate on Friday because he genuinely thought that if he and Obama went into DC on Friday that they would magically be able to solve the financial bailout problem. I hope the journalists in this country are savvy enough to understand by now that what politicians say and what they mean are usually two totally different things.
Come on, who really believes that McCain thinks that if he and Obama don't go into DC together -- specifically on Friday, when the debate was scheduled -- that the business of the country cannot be resolved? Why don't they go in together on Thursday or Saturday?
Politicians on both sides of the aisle try to play these situations, no matter how important, to their political advantage -- especially in the middle of a presidential contest. To not understand that as a reporter is to commit gross journalistic negligence. So, it should be reported as such. This is a political gambit by McCain, pure and simple.
Now, to the equally important question of why. My first reaction was, "Wow, he's scared!" I couldn't quite believe the move. It shows such fundamental weakness. But that alone could not be the answer. There's no way a major presidential candidate is going to get so intimidated by a debate -- that is already scheduled -- that he is going to try to duck it two days before it happens. That's inconceivable.
Then I realized why they didn't want to have this debate now. The first debate is on foreign policy. Conventional wisdom and the McCain camp believe this is their strong suit. But the news cycle is dominated right now by the economic problems, which plays to Obama's advantage. There was already news out that some of the questions would have to be about the economic situation at hand. And those are the questions that would naturally make the most news.
It's not that the McCain campaign doesn't want to have this debate; it's that they don't want to have it now. They think it is terrible timing for their side. They want people to focus on the foreign policy debate and this would be the worst possible time for that.
I have never been convinced that foreign policy is a strength for John McCain, so I think his calculation is off there. But more importantly, the McCain team has decided that they could play this off as some sort of patriotic act rather than the crass political calculation that it is. If there is any decent press in the country at all, then that calculation should prove to be the worst one yet. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BONUS: In case you didn't know there is an awesome new progressive talk show put out by Brave New Films called . It's hosted by Cenk and recent guests include Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore and many others you can check out Free On Demand in the past shows section using the link provided.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:07 AM
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1. Thanks for posting. Foreign policy is NOT McCain's |
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'strength'. His only foreign policy is war.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:09 AM
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2. It's either what Cenk is saying here OR they want to avoid the Biden - Palin debate. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:21 PM
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20. you hit the nail on the head |
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This has everything to do with the VP debate.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:09 AM
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3. Deleted for carelessness |
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Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 11:34 AM by Tangerine LaBamba
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:15 AM
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How can you say "the whole premise of this piece is wrong" when *you agree* with Cenk that McCain knows that his presence (along with Obama's) will have no impact on the financial negotiations?
IMO, Cenk's piece is dead on. The only thing he left out is the benefit to delaying the Palin debate...that news broke after he wrote this yesterday, but still, I'm surprised he didn't think to mention it as a motive.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:35 AM
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12. You're absolutely right, and I apologize |
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I read it carelessly and took a completely different meaning from it. That's why it made no sense to me.
Upon a more careful reading, I deleted my idiotic response.
Sorry.
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Thu Sep-25-08 12:38 PM
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14. It's ok, it happens :) |
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:10 AM
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another part of the strategy is to keep Palin in the closet. Reschedule the Friday debate for next Thursday and we'll get around to rescheduling the VP date some other time...maybe November 15 ???
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:11 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:16 AM
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7. I agree with Cenk, and with the take from some DUers. Bottom line -- now |
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is not a good time for McCain to engage in a debate, so they threw this wrench into the works.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:19 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:21 AM
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9. That-- and McCain just had a minor stroke. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 11:23 AM by Marr
That's my opinion, at least. I expect Cenk's assessment is one factor behind the delay, but after seeing the photos of McCain's face drooping on the left side on Tuesday, I think this proposed delay may be more about buying a little time to hide the effects of a stroke.
After all, Palin is already looking like a joke. They cannot keep her sequestered for another two months, and every time she speaks, she shows what a ditz she is. If McCain shows up at a debate looking the way he looked yesterday, everyone will be looking at Palin through different eyes-- even the Republicans. She won't be some cute little accessory. She'll be President Palin, and with these looming financial problems... forget it.
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Thu Sep-25-08 01:30 PM
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15. My girlfriend saw McCain and immediately pointed out his eye, before hearing anything about it |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:17 PM
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My kid picked up on that quickly, asking why McCain's face was "droopy" on one side.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:40 PM
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21. Thom Hartmann talked a lot about that possible stroke today. |
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And a number of callers thought they saw the same thing.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:30 AM
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10. Cenk is right on and... |
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especially about the media. This race is a trainwreck! IF they would abandon their coddeling of McCain and Palin- I mean really abandon it and report the truth, the Republican party would be seriously put out of comission. They fucking suck and have fucked this nation beyond recognition. Utter failures and worse, destroyers.
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Thu Sep-25-08 11:35 AM
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13. McCain wants to get Palin off the hook. |
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NOTE: He immediately tried to "reschedule" the Presidential debate as a REPLACEMENT for the Vice-Presidential debate. THAT was the primary objective all along ... to keep Palin from becoming the new Miss Teen South Carolina. It is, after all, a near certainty that any sentient being will observe her performance and question whether she's even qualified to be a day-care worker or insurance agent.
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Thu Sep-25-08 02:22 PM
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I think Cenk is also right, and that hiding Palin can be added onto the list of motives.
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Thu Sep-25-08 07:35 PM
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18. Cenk updated his article (see link in OP) to reflect the Palin news n/t |
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