assuming Palin "debates" Biden: what's the most powerful strategy he can take?

[zazen]

First, he needs to control his I'm-letting-my-boundaries-down moments, since they're inevitably miscast and as a Democrat he's held to an impossible standard.

But, should he call her on outright lies? Should he point out her factual errors over and over and over again until she breaks? If she breaks and cries--though that doesn't seem her temperament--will that win her sympathy? If she breaks and says what she's really thinking about Armeggedon, et al, I think that's a good thing. (That'd be my strategy with McCain--work him up into a fury.)

Assuming Gwin isn't going to her call her out on whether she subscribes to Christian Dominionism (and run the list item by item to force her to deny it in front of her pentecostal fans), can Biden call her on it?

What do you let speak for itself in terms of her incompetence, and what do you have to come out and say because the American Public is too thick to see through her confident Fargoisms? If he does, will he come off as too aggressive?

He does have to be careful not to seem condescending, but how do you avoid that when you're dealing with a theocratic pageant bully with an IQ hovering in the 110 range?

I'm really curious how she should be dismantled. Her VP-ship could be effectively over if he plays this right. . . but what is right?

[DS1]

1. Trap Door

just dump her into the alley, and talk some issues for 90 minutes

[kansasblue]

2. just be good ole Joe

solid, steady, blue collar

[SharonAnn]

15. Don't appear to belittle her or talk down to her. But saying "My understanding of the issue and

is xxxxxxxx because of the facts xxxxxxxx." should work. The key is "My understanding is.." No one can deny that. No one can say he called her a liar or called her "stupid".

Don't directly contradict her but at the same time be focused and forceful. This, of course, would be when she speaks first or has stated a position on something. That's why I'm suggesting the framing "My understanding of the issue is xxxxxx because of the facts xxxxxxx."

When he speaks first, he can be a more direct.

[Taverner]

3. Deep discussion into issues punctuated by sound bytes

Red meat for us

Soundbites for the masses

[annabanana]

4. I think he should let her talk a lot.

so everyone can see how "regular & folksy" she is.

[blm]

12. oh yeah....and cowardly, fraudulent...and parrotlike. Voters should recognize all the Limbaughisms

that spout from her beak....I mean..lips.

[Sydnie]

5. Just let her answer her own questions ... she will do herself in

Folksy will only get her so far.

[Contrary1]

6. He should use big words. That will be more than enough to throw her. n/t

[Speck Tater]

7. Use complete sentences, with a noun and verb and everything.

That will put him way out front right from the start.

[Warpy]

8. First, it's going to be difficult to decipher what she's saying

because it's obvious she's being trained in right wing bafflegab, the ability to talk very quickly repeating the same thing several times with slightly different wording in order to appear intelligent and articulate.

Her base isn't meant to understand any of it, just to understand how superior this ordinary hockey mom is to that pointy headed liberal on the stage.

The best thing Biden can do is talk past her, be genuine, and speak about the issues without talking down to anyone, even Palin. He can't beat her, he can't join her. Best thing to do is play a different game, altogether, and throw her off balance.

[Obamanaut]

9. If Mr Biden addresses her directly, let him use words of two or more

syllables, then enjoy the response. It will be a good show. Maybe a bit cruel, but enjoyable.

[zazen]

16. that's my favorite: confuse her with words like "post-colonial" that she thinks means 1750. .

and then stand back and watch as she discusses Africa during the colonial ages.

[zazen]

17. surely there must be a lot of sadistic word pairs among you brilliant DU-ers? n/t

[Raschel]

26. He should use the word detente

she'll think it's a chewing gum.

[blm]

10. grab her chest and shout, "Mah pills are in the roundhouse"

.

[dkofos]

11. All he needs to do is answer the questions and let puppy killer barbie

bury herself.

[Raschel]

13. What would YOU do?

Could you keep a straight face? If I had to debate her I would be making all kinds of faces like, "what the HELL are you talking about", or "PAH!" or hitting my head on the podium.

[ProgressiveFool]

21. Actually, I would like to see at least one face-palm from Joe

to express the frustration of the thinking portion of this country's population.

[Raschel]

24. Do you mean a "talk to the hand"?

I would love it!

[nycmjkfan]

14. I wonder

When Biden goes first with his answer, Can she answer...."Yeah, what he said!?"

[Vincardog]

18. should he call her on outright lies? No he should clearly state the TRUTH and make his point.

IF he points out her factual errors over and over and over again he will not have time to do anything else. He can directly state the TRUTH refuting her most blatant lie and then go on to state the correct point of view.

If she breaks and cries--
That will not happen. The fundies have to be resolute and strong.

Assuming Gwin isn't going to her call her out on whether she subscribes to Christian Dominionism (and run the list item by item to force her to deny it in front of her pentecostal fans), can Biden call her on it?
No this is a foreign policy debate.

What do you let speak for itself in terms of her incompetence, and what do you have to come out and say because the American Public is too thick to see through her confident Fargoisms? If he does, will he come off as too aggressive?
The format will not allow direct confrontation. His best reaction would be to laugh out loud at her insane answers.

He does have to be careful not to seem condescending,
no he doesn't he will be talking to the American people not to Caribou Barbie.



I'm really curious how she should be dismantled. Her VP-ship could be effectively over if he plays this right. . . but what is right?

[bobthedrummer]

19. "In interview, Palin defends Alaska-Russia remark"

"Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin defended her remark that the close proximity of Russia to her home state of Alaska gives her foreign policy experience, explaining in a CBS interview airing Thursday that, "we have trade missions back and forth."
(9-25-2008 Amy Westfeldt AP feedarticle via Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7827207

Foreign policy then, Sister Sarah-our next VP has experienced a bit of that.

[ailsagirl]

20. Just be himself-- give her enough rope to hang herself, though...

:eyes: :evilgrin:

[jpgray]

22. If the contrast is already apparent between intelligence and its opposite, keep it clean

If not, then trap her and knock her off the talking points.

[ThomWV]

23. Biden should immediately dive deep into issues where Palen will have to follow

And in so doing bring on her own undoing.

Biden is smart and right now we the people realize quite pointedly that smart is needed in Washington. Palen doesn't have a clue what is going on, so Biden should go straight to the heart of issues and frame his answers so that Palen is drawn into the conversation at a depth easily enough to drown her.

[dana_b]

25. just let her open her mouth. n/t

[UTUSN]

27. Gently, but not patronizingly, merciLESSLY stick it to her. She's supposed to be "tough"!1 n/t

[LiberalHeart]

28. Just once when she gives a response, he should dissolve into hysterical laughter and...

...try to compose himself, but be unable to do so.