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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:59 AM
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Here to Stay, 14,000 Strong, and Armed With Non-Lethal Weapons - America, Meet Your New Local Milita
There are times when certain headlines fly through the news that make your heart drop. Sometimes, it’s a simple headline that can do the trick. Other times, it takes a bit more research before things start to get scary. Follow me as I play connect the dots and introduce you to the military unit that will be stationed near you, in America. To answer your first question: yes they will be available to be used to control civil disobedience. To answer your next question: as long as the military wants them to stay. Perhaps your last question: October, 2008.
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First and foremost is the fact that the CCMRF will be divided into three forces: CCMRF-1, CCMRF-2, CCMRF-3. These forces are from the Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. This is to encompass the vast array of duties this unit will be responsible for carrying out. Each CCMRF force will consist of approximately 4,500 troops. In an interview conducted by the Air Force Times, Army Lt. Col. Rob Cunniff, head of NorthCom’s Future Operations revealed a lot of detail about what the force will be. He envisions that the forces will be split up in thirds as the country would be: 1 force for the West, 1 for the East and 1 in the middle. The first unit would be the greatest mix of forces while the 2nd and 3rd would be made up of mostly Guard units.
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One striking piece of information is that this unit will be equipped with the Army’s first ever non-lethal arsenal of weapons. Not just beanbag guns but tasers, batons, shields, etc. I’ll let the Army speak for itself here again. 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier:

“…the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
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Mr. Renuart:

“oversaw the planning and execution of all joint and allied combat, humanitarian assistance and reconstruction operations for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom.”

So, the person who oversaw all of the completely chaotic, ineffective, dangerous, and terrible “operation” in Iraq, is the one who is going to be in command of the unit deployed in this country? Please tell me this is a dream so I can wake up.
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“(e) USARNORTH accomplishes its CBRN CM mission in strict adherence of public law and DOD policies. Deployment of USARNORTH, at the direction of the USNORTHCOM commander and on the authority of the Secretary of Defense, occurs only after a governor requests federal assistance from the President, and after the President issues a Presidential Disaster Declaration. In any DSCA setting, USARNORTH remains in support of the lead federal agency throughout the CBRN CM operation.”

Did anyone else just read that it takes a governor to ask for this authorization? Can anyone recall a governor suddenly becoming a prominent public figure for no apparent reason?

Oh that’s right. Governor Sarah Palin from Alaska. Quite possibly the least capable or experienced candidate to ever run for the position.
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Alaska you say?

Allow me to introduce AKS/NE ’07. Alaska Shield/Northern Edge training mission. This would be one of the first large-scale training missions that would be done in conjunction with other states. However, the Alaskan operation was a huge one involving multiple types of training.

I don’t think it’s possible that the Governor of Alaska would have not been involved in this in some way.
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Obviously there is a lot of additional information out there on all of these subjects. So please, go out and do your own research and let’s see what is really going on here.

To recap:

* 3 forces, around 4,500 strong will be deployed in the East, West and middle of the country
* They will be replaced every year
* They are under the command of the person who oversaw Operation Iraqi Blunder
* They will be armed with the Army’s first non-lethal weapons package
* They can be deployed by the governor of a state
* The last state they had a big training operation in was Alaska
* The governor of Alaska was surprisingly chosen as the Vice Presidential candidate for John McBush

We’re gonna have a problem here.
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http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/36358

Oy! Gonna have to look into this before I put my tinfoil hat on, but... Bet they have more than nonlethal weapons.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:27 AM
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1. there`s one small problem.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

only congress can approve this plan.
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:49 AM
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3. Posse Comitatus Act - It is a joke now thanks to Bush
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 07:52 AM by tannybogus
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007

Saturday, February 17, 2007
The Warner Act: A Martial Law Enabling Act

I'm reposting an excellent article by Frank Morales that was written in October 2006 about the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007. This act was passed by Congress in October and signed by Bush the same day he signed the Military Commissions Act of 2006. The Warner Act, however, was signed in a private ceremony and hardly anyone has even heard about it. When I speak to groups most of the time no one raises their hand when I ask if anyone knows about this law.

In effect, the Warner Act enables martial law. It overrides the Posse Comitatus Act that dates from the civil war and that prohibits the use of military forces in domestic affairs. The Warner Act allows the President to take control over the National Guard units over the objections of state governors and use the guard to conduct roundups, mass detentions and anything else that might be justified by him upon his declaration of a "public emergency." The legislation specifies that should the President deem it necessary to declare a public emergency that he must consult with a select group of Congress members to tell them why he is doing this and what he is doing. In Bush's signing statement he declares in essence that he reserves the right not to consult with anyone:

"The executive branch shall construe sections 914 and 1512 of the Act, which purport to make consultation with specified Members of Congress a precondition to the execution of the law, as calling for but not mandating such consultation, as is consistent with the Constitution's provisions concerning the separate powers of the Congress to legislate and the President to execute the laws."

In other words, he can declare martial law and not tell anyone why he's doing it or what he's doing. There is a word for this: dictatorship. Yet, in spite of this outrageous law and his outrageous signing statement, the media have been silent on this. We, the people, however, cannot be silent in the face of these moves towards a fascist state.

http://dennisloo.blogspot.com/2007/02/warner-act-martial-law-enabling-act.html

Bush has also made so many signings who knows what is going on. In addition, he and Cheney have been quite cavalier in their interpretation of the Constitution.

What makes anyone think they aren't endrunning it now in some way?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:08 AM
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6. forgot about that.....
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:17 AM
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7. The only reason I know
is because I looked up Posse Comitatus when I heard about this brigade. Then I got a violent headache when my head tried to explode.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:42 AM
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8. I remember reading about this when it happened...
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 08:42 AM by unapatriciated
it scared the shit out of me then and I wondered when Bush would pull this out of his bag of tricks.
I have a customer who's son has been serving in Iraq his unit came home last week for additional training.....
of the domestic variety.

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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:50 AM
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10. THAT IS SO 2 YEARS AGO
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:38 AM
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2. The Constitution allows the President to draw from the states, not the other way around
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 07:39 AM by ThomWV
The President may call on the executive authority of each state to use their militias (National Guard) but nowhere in the Constitution does it allow for the executive of the states to call on the President for the use of the nation's Military for any purpose what so ever.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:58 AM
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4. Congress helped the criminals subvert the Constitution on this.
Defense Authorization Act (2006) and other anti-Constitutional acts have made it possible for him to do this.

Read Glenn Greenwald's article here: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/index.html




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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:03 AM
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5. This isn't a militia
this is an agressive enemy army on our land illegally. We should act accordingly.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:47 AM
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9. A must read. K&R.
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