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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:34 PM Original message |
*Bailout proposal, as it currently stands* |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. Free Market Solution Right Here - Bailout Not Required! |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Naomi Klein "The Shock Doctrine" |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. How do Paulson and Bush reward cronies under these terms? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. that sounds better |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Fortunately Pauson is only going to be there untill January, thank God. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. days ago |
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Captiosus (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Much better, but I can already hear the media spin. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. This is NOT a bailout. This is an Economic Stabilization measure. |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. That sounds a like like a combination of Dodd's and Sanders plans. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. yeah, me too. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'd like tighter language |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I think most of us would. A lot of this is dependent on the actual language of the bill |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. Better, I guess. |
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JimWis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. I caught the tale end of a conversation by an economist on the |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. i guess they'll never believe |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. is there anything relating to HOW they are to value the "assets"? |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. Sure, 100% of what they paid!!!!!!!! We are such suckers..........n/t |
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PFunk (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. I may be crazy but right now I don't think the repugs wont put up much of a fuss abot this proposal. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. they'll go with the numbers. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. The Wall Street Journal said that the executive pay limits would be there. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. the comments are toxic: |
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Captiosus (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Two posts by the same guy who is obviously a closet freeper |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. that's definitely the question in my mind |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. You take that seriously? |
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wildflowergardener (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. Renegotiating mortgages |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. The frustrating thing is that failed banks don't hurt the executives that cause them to fail |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. That's WHY WE MUST ELECT JOHN RUSSELL TO CONGRESS WHO WILL GO AFTER THESE CROOKS! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. This is truly a sweeping over-generalization. While i do not feel much |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Are you talking about ex-CEO Greenberg or recently dropped Willumstad? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Greenberg, acc to NY Times, has taken a huge hit to his |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Greenberg has been out for what, 3 years? And he was what left? $800 million? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. A $100 million here and a $100 million there and pretty soon you're |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I think you'll find widespread agreement on that from all of DU |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Serves the mortgagers right for not allowing people to re-negociate. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. Leave it for the next Congress, everything will be clearer by then ... nt |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The risk is, if we don't pass -any- bailout and matters get much worse, it's at our feet |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. kick |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
26. NO BAILOUT! Let 'em fall!! It'll self-correct, and the fat cats won't get fatter. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Do you believe self-correction will include arrest and confiscation? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No, self-correction and investigating are quite separate. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Would the gain in this case be entirely privatized? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I think some gain (assuming a bailout) would be given back to government coffers. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I think on that basis there's no way to feel about this other than outraged |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Do you like being able to pay for your gas with a debit card? Do you |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
31. Looks fairly OK to me. I like these 3 things: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. The first thing Democrats have to do is say "we rejected Bush's bail out plan" and implemented a |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Ding, ding, ding!!! Bush is a defeated man, as his televised begging |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. $250Billion is a HUGE amount of money. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. True enough, but with installments and oversight it is superior to the Paulson plan |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Question for you. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. $250 Billion is a HUGE amount of money..... |
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