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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:29 PM
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No cheering at all when Obama mentions a bailout he can vote yes on.
Barrack Obama, at a campaign rally in Detroit, Michigan, played to an adoring crowd. That is until he stated that they now have a bailout bill that he could support. You could hear a pin drop. A stark departure of demeanor for the crowd.

Meanwhile, the Senate has put off voting on the bailout package until Wednesday citing a need for debate.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:33 PM
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1. Who the hell is going to cheer for a bailout? It's like cheering for a root canal.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:47 PM
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9. ?
No body wants a root canal, but some people may need a root canal.

I don't understand your analogy.

Are you trying to say the bailout will hurt, but we need it? Because that's what it sound like.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:51 PM
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11. Yeah, that was my point--it may be painful, but necessary.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:54 PM
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13. I had a of root canal that was unsuccessful
Still had to have the tooth yanked even after all the pain and expense of the root canal procedure.

Don
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:58 PM
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26. Still, you don't cheer it, right?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:35 PM
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2. Isn't that the one I'm watching now?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:37 PM
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3. Yes. Did you miss that part? n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:44 PM
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8. Yeah I guess I did..
I'm still listening..I heard what he had to say, and I thought the crowd response was appropriate to what he was saying. Maybe I'm mis-interpreting your post.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:38 PM
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4. Yes. nt
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:38 PM
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5. I noticed that too.
It got amazingly silent when he started speaking in favor of the current bailout bill.

I can only hope that when/if it passes the Democrats are able to say "look, this was fully bipartisan and we didn't go it alone".. but that's putting too much faith in Reid, Pelosi and Dodd.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:41 PM
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7. I don't know how many people are there. But isn't it amazing that not
one person boo-ed. That is phenomenally cool because it shows the degree of respect that every one has for Obama. Together, the entire crowd chose to go silent rather than break out in spontaneous boo-ing.
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:39 PM
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6. you just made my blood run cold
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:49 PM
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10. Okay, did you make that Palin wrapped in a flag photoshop?
If so, give me the link to your blog so I can give you credit when I post it to mine, or tell me how you want to be credited, or where you got it if you didn't it.

It's perfect.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:05 PM
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15. Actually, it's real. Palin posed in that flag. Newsweek published it. n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:14 PM
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21. did you add the text? I like to give people credit before I spread their work around
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:13 PM
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30. Yes, I added the text to the image. Sinclair Lewis provided the wisdom. n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:54 PM
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12. that gives us a few days
to try and stop it. the people should decide. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:03 PM
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14. If Obama votes yes & McCain votes no,
we could lose the election. Is there any possibility that McCain would vote no? What if McCain doesn't vote? Someone said he hasn't voted since April. ???

My problem is that I don't think most Americans think this bail out is necessary. Hell, I'm not sure I think it's necessary. I admit that I don't know much about economics, but why can't this bailout wait until after the election? Will four weeks make that big of a difference? My biggest fear is that this plan was touted by boosh & we've been down that road before. I fear the dems are being played & the taxpayers taken for a ride.

Ack!!! This whole issue makes me dizzy & nauseous.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:08 PM
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18. One vote?
Do you really believe that one vote - this bailout business - could cost Obama the election?

Can you explain why you think that?
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:21 PM
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22. Because a lot of people are against this bailout.
Any strides gained with independents/undecideds in the last couple of weeks could completely and totally tank of McCain votes no and Obama votes yes. People question this bailout. A lot don't think it's necessary. A lot think it's more Bush posturing.

If Obama votes yes and McCain votes no, the Gingrich plan of linking Bush to Obama and democrats will be in full effect and it will have teeth behind it, too, because people who don't follow legislation and rely on MSM to give them all their "news" will still hear it's a 700 billion dollar windfall (you know damn well they won't talk about the division of monies) and that Obama supported it despite public opinion.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:42 PM
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24. Bush & Democratic Leadership vs House Republicans
This was the CNN sub-title last Friday, during every report they had on the bailout meetings. If the repubs vote no & the dems vote yes, every repub that voted no, who is facing reelection, will make this issue their battle cry. It will make a difference.

I know people who never pay any attention to politics, but they are outraged over this matter. That doesn't mean that they are educated about it, just that as it appears to them, Wall St. is getting a massive bail out for their fiscally irresponsible behavior, but Main St. is not.

In a better economy they might not vote on this single issue, but when every trip to the grocery store & gas station takes more & more of their pay, which by the way, has stagnated or gone down, you bet people will vote on this one issue.

The dems better make damned sure the repubs vote against this or we could lose House & Senate seats, not to mention the White House.

What's funny is I was more inclined to pull my support over the FISA bill & most Americans were barely aware of that. :crazy: :eyes: :crazy: :eyes: :crazy:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:49 PM
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25. I understand
I don't know, though, that the perceived swing would necessarily take place. There are a lot of Republicans backing this bill, and only the most conservative - with whom I find myself agreeing, as do you, it seems - are holding out on it, stating that a bailout is the wrong thing to do.

The polls I see have 3/4 of the country in favor of the bailout.

It'll be interesting. Thanks for clearing that up.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:10 PM
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19. Dems better not sign onto this unless
Nearly 100% of R's vote for it, INCLUDING McCain.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:10 PM
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20. Dems better not sign onto this unless
Nearly 100% of R's vote for it, INCLUDING McCain.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:11 PM
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29. I agree, this rush to "fix" the financial problems is bullshit.
If the fat cats can't get money from Congress, I think they should just loan themselves a few billion until after the election. They can even give themselves low interest rates. If you can get $20 million golden parachutes to make a company fail, your credit line must be strong enough to get a private loan to bail out a private business entity.

The whole thing just pisses me off no end. :grr: I hope Obama "heard" the silence and interprets it correctly as, "This bailout sucks and we think you're selling out to rescue millionaires."
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:41 PM
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31. We have until Wednesday to let Congress know what we think.
Find your Congress critters here & let them know what you think.

http://www.votesmart.org/

Disclaimer: I'm a pessimist & don't think voicing your opinion will do any damned good, but in the spirit of democracy, I've provided this link. ;)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:07 PM
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16. That means he'd better make his case to the voters then
as to why he supports this bailout and why it's better than not throwing all that taxpayer money into the wind.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:07 PM
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17. "A need for debate"? Whyever would we need a thing like that?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:22 PM
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23. I so hope I'm wrong. n/t
:kick:


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:02 PM
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27. Obama and Democratic leaders are NUTS if they think voters will cheer them on this.
I still don't agree with their headlong action to "save" the economy. Until the public is demanding they do something, they should have told Bush "thanks, but no thanks!"

Most of Obama's decisions have been sound, but this failure to see the bailout as a political bailout of Republicans may be his campaign's undoing.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:17 PM
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28. The bailout is the final verdict that shows for the past 3 decades both
parties have been selling us out.
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NoUsername Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:01 PM
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32. That's it in a nutshell.
If they're really as concerned about the poor and middle class as they claim to be, they would demand that the bailout be paid for entirely by raising taxes on the rich.
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