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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:11 PM
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Calls rise among Republicans for Sarah Palin to step down from GOP ticket
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 02:16 PM by Liberal_in_LA
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/27/2008-09-27_calls_rise_among_republicans_for_sarah_p.html
Calls rise among Republicans for Sarah Palin to step down from GOP ticketBY THOMAS M. DeFRANK and DAVID SALTONSTALL
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Sunday, September 28th 2008, 11:31 AM

As the economy worsens, so does Palin in the eyes of fellow Republicans.
Sarah Palin faces the biggest test of her month-old candidacy with this Thursday's vice presidential debate, but many Republicans are already convinced the Alaska governor is not ready for prime time - and may never be.

"It was fun while it lasted," conservative National Review columnist Kathleen Parker regretfully concluded last week. "But circumstances have changed since Palin was introduced as just a hockey mom with lipstick."

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Those "circumstances," Parker and others are now saying, include not just the Wall Street meltdown - a crisis that seems to cry out for seasoned leadership - but also Palin's choppy, tenuous, even unintelligible answers to the few questions she has fielded on her own.

Palin's interview last week with CBS' Katie Couric is Exhibit A - a frightening glimpse, say fans and critics alike, into what happens when Palin is allowed to speak without a script.






http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palin28-2008sep28,0,3440078.story

Some on the right are joining a chorus of criticism over Sarah Palin

John McCain's running mate and his sharp reactions to the nation's economic crisis have led several prominent conservative columnists to slam the senator as reckless and strident.

By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
10:48 PM PDT, September 27, 2008

While John McCain and his aides have railed against the "liberal mainstream media" in recent weeks, some of the most searing attacks against the Republican presidential nominee have come from conservative intellectuals.

McCain's surprise vice presidential pick, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and his sharp reactions to the continuing economic storm have led several prominent columnists on the right to slam the Arizona senator as more reckless than bold, more strident than forceful.


Those opinion leaders, in turn, have triggered a backlash from other commentators, who have dubbed the critics elitists and risen to the defense of a woman they see as the Republican Party's new populist star.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:14 PM
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1. Can someone explain to me what makes Palin a populist, besides
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 02:14 PM by wienerdoggie
being undereducated and having a trashy family? I'm talking policy-wise.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:21 PM
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5. Populist just means she's popular with the terminally gullible -
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 02:22 PM by Kaleko
those who believe what big daddy authoritarians tell them to think. Baaa baaa, good sheep follow their shepherds to the slaughterhouse, all the while bleating their consent.



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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:28 PM
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8. Since when is politics about policy? Especially Repub politics?
(Well, yeah, I'm exaggerating. slightly. Anyway -- )

The Republican brand's tarnished & will continue to be for another decade or two. The vast majority of people under the age of... 35, more or less, isn't buying what the Republicans are selling. The evangelicals & the aging white conservative suburbanites haven't felt like the masters of the universe anymore like they'd been used to feeling from c.1980 through 2006.

Palin's there purely for fluffy reasons -- to make the republican base feel "cool" again.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:14 PM
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2. Who could they get to replace her on the ticket? The only reason she's
there in the first place is that the different factions of the Republican party hate all the alternative choices.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:16 PM
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3. What the fuck is a "conservative intellectual"?
Talk about a contradiction in terms.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:28 PM
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7. The next one will be the first.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 05:13 PM
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23. A conservative intellectual is a Freeper who can spell,
who uses big words and convoluted sentences to convince the sheeple that he or she actually knows something. The late William Buckley with his infuriating supercilious drawl is my personal archetype of the "conservative intellectual."

A conservative intellectual is also known nowadays as a Libertarian.
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:05 PM
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29. Not all conservatives are stupid,
but most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:18 PM
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Um...conservative intellectuals?
Jumbo Shrimp?
Military Intelligence?
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:18 PM
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4. Many of these "commentators" have made a career out of defending the indefensible.
Of course they see nothing wrong with Palin.
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jovi Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:26 PM
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6. Can someone answer this for me?
At this point if they are to replace her on the ticket, what happens to all the early votes? There are several states that have started early voting. Do they toss those and they go back and vote again? And how much would it cost to replace her, ballots have been made up in most if not all states. I say keep her- it will put Obama in the white house for sure!!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:29 PM
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9. Fuck off back to Alaska you mental runt!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 05:19 PM
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24. No, She Needs to Stay
she's a excellent reminder of what a erratic, gambler McCain is. He could give a shit about "country" - picking Palin proved that slogan to be another lie.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:31 PM
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10. It would make huge headlines if they dumped her-- maybe that''s
what they want? But then it would further illustrate how ill-informed their decisions are and how weak their party has gotten.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:38 PM
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11. Then Palin would be double-dumped!!
Because when she slithered back to Alaska, tail between her legs, the recall of Governor Palin would be fully enforced.

'Double Dumped'

Gop that once protected her every gaffe won't need her anymore. They will abandon her.
A victim of her own ego.

Recall Gov. Palin.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:19 PM
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15. We can dream, can't we??
:)
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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:26 PM
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26. Sort of like Katherine Harris? n/t
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:47 PM
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12. They can't. Remember Eagleton?
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:59 PM
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14. McCain would actually stand a chance if he picked Chuck Norris
I'm dead serious about that. It's just the kind of crazy "maverick" move that got him a small boost when he chose Palin.

But I don't think Chuck is returning his phone calls.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:55 PM
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13. The problem is - they have to admit McCain's judgement
was terrible if she leaves the ticket. In fairness when your choices come down to anybody who is still a Republican or Lieberman, you would have a better chance picking somebody at random.

Since the good of the country is not and has never been a real concern for McCain, I'm pretty sure that he will keep her on the ticket to win the fundamentalist Flat-Earth vote and hope that the vote-spread stays in single digits.

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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:30 PM
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27. I'm still not convinced
that she was picked by McCain.

I've felt all along she was forced on him by the RNC.

Seriously. We all know they brought him to heel in 2004 by promising him the candidacy in 2008 if he'd hug Bush and make nice by giving up his bid. Then there was the mock primary run by all those "big guns" and wasn't it amazing how fast they all just disappeared from view?

I may be paranoid here but I think there's much much more going on here than meets the eye. The Christian Taliban in this country have been trying to take over the gov't since Reagan. I think she was the first test to see if they could field their own little meat puppet.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:27 PM
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16. Don't you listen to them, Sarah! You stay in, girl!
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 03:29 PM by Buns_of_Fire
(At least until after this Thursday's debate...:popcorn:)
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:45 PM
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17. lol. n/t
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:42 PM
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19. I second that! You make a wonderful albatross, Ms. Palin!
:applause: Don't abandon the ticket, just because there's an iceberg dead ahead! Stay the course!! ;)
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:58 PM
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21. ITA. I always thought the Palin nomination was a wonderful gift to our side.
:woohoo:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:25 PM
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18. too late
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:55 PM
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20. "Some people say..." Names? I didn't see any elected official's names
I'll get excited when someone goes public.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:58 PM
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22. heard some repub blatherhead on MSNBC
say palin will do great and WIN the debate. She's knowledgeable and capable of being VP and her performance at the debate will show that to americans...

:wtf: I want some of whatever he's smoking
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:08 PM
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25. Maybe Wednesday night...
Just to take the wind out of Thursday's debate.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:50 PM
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28. McCain supported her strongly this a.m. on This Week.
Even added the trademark inappropriate leer and guffaw.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:13 PM
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30. This just gets better and better, its like watching
a train wreck in slow motion, except the passengers on the train are all clowns.

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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:05 AM
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31. If the Republicans want her to step down, I say keep her
Lipstick on Bush can only help Obama win.
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