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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:57 PM
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It's a hurricane and it's gonna hit Canada and those doofuses think Global Warming is fake
You can't have a hurricane unless the water temperatures are warm enough to brew one.

I give you Hurricane Kyle, less than a day from hitting New Brunswick in Canada

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2iqi0ZBKxPnOnGkNUB_m1VHQgXw
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:00 PM
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1. Hurricanes and Tropical Storms do occasionally hit New England and the Canadian Maritimes
I believe that Global Warming is taking place, but you can't point to Hurricane Kyle as evidence.

It's like saying snow in Charleston, SC (which happens once in awhile) is sign of "Global Cooling."
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:01 PM
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2. There have been a fair number of Canadian Hurricanes.....
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:03 PM
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3. Canada? THIS IS HUGH!!1!! SARAH PALIN CAN SEE CANADA FROM HER PORCH111!!! RUN SARAH!!!111
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:04 PM
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5. When Canadian weather systems rear their head in Alaskan airspace..
we can trust Gov. Palin is on the job, right guys and gals?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:06 PM
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7. she'll run out on the beach and tell it to "shoo!"
like all those Russians
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:07 PM
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8. It's only a 3000 mile maritime border. And the Iraq and such.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:06 PM
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6. Sarah? Don't look, Sarah! Don't LOOK!
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:00 PM
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13. She's out with her gun guarding Alaska from the Russkis.
Call Santa.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:04 PM
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4. I strongly believe in Global Warming but Hurricanes have hit Canada many times before
They follow the warm gulf stream up the coast and as they go further north the impact of the spin of the earth becomes greater causing the coriolis effect to increase and the spinning to strengthen.

If they start hitting Canada and New England more often a correlation can be attributed but one Hurricane doesn't say much.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:23 PM
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9. "It's normal for this time of year "
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 03:26 PM by Artiechoke





:sarcasm:
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:29 PM
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10. Curious minds want to know - Who exactly are "those doofuses" ??
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:33 PM
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11. If you want "doofuses" defined, it's sorta
like "idiots" or "people with bushel baskets over their heads" or "can't see the forest for the trees" or "ostriches with their heads in the sand". I think you have the picture.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:57 PM
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12. It was the word "those" that I was wondering about - who are "they"?
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I'd hate to assume the author of the OP was referring to us Canuks . .

just askin'

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:05 PM
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14. My guess the author meant people who
don't believe in global warming.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 06:49 PM
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15. The sky is falling, the sky is falling....
Yes, the climate might be changing and growing warmer. And even if mankind dumping tons and tons of pollution isn't the direct cause of this problem, it definitely doesn't help.

I hate pollution, I grew up in a small industrial town in Ohio in the sixties where the pollution was so bad that people who worked at the factories said that the paint would be eaten off their cars in the parking lot. My parents lived in Pittsburgh Pa during the era that a city steel mill belched obnoxious and hazardous fumes. Sometimes during a temperature inversion it was totally dark at noon. My mother told me that if she left the windows open, she had to wash the curtains every week.

So when I left the service, I decided to move to Tampa Florida. But there was pollution there too. Not only air pollution, but Tampa Bay is far from a pristine body of water.

Other major threats include significant loss of habitat. Since the 1950s, almost half of the bay's original marshes and mangroves have been lost, half of its natural shoreline has been altered by construction of roads, causeways, subdivisions and other development, and 40 percent of its underwater seagrass beds have disappeared.
http://www.tbep.org/portrait/faqs.html

But as much as I want to move to green energy and energy independence and away from our dependence on fossil fuels, I get upset when every single slightly unusual weather event gets blamed on climate change. So a hurricane is about to hit Canada (actually a strong tropical storm by the latest predictions. It's happened before and will happen again. If we have a freeze in Florida that ruins the orange tees this year, many people will blame climate change. When a hurricane hits Galveston, it must be a sign of climate change. If for some reason, the temperature rises to 65 degrees in Chicago in January, it can only be global warming (but it also happened in 1876, as well as several other years). http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/?n=janrec-ord

Too often politicians and the media use fear tactics to scare people into supporting an agenda. (The latest example is Bush and his attempt to scare people into supporting a 700 billion dollar bailout for Wall Street.) Climate and man made pollution are indeed serious problems. We can present logical arguments for reducing pollution and moving to green energy.

We just don't need to blow every little weather event way out of proportion to prove our point It makes us look foolish.


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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:05 PM
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16. What's really fucked up is...
...the weather here in DC has been rather cool over the past week or so.
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IndianaJohn Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:15 PM
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17. Gulf Stream
The warm gulf stream flows north from Florida roughly paralleling the east coast offshore some few hundred miles. Then it flows east toward Iceland. Tropical systems are many times enhanced by this and Kyle is somewhat paralleling it as it moves northward. It's top winds are 75 mph making it a thresh hold hurricane. Although I believe that man made global warming is occurring, this isn't that unusual.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:20 PM
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18. The last one was 17 years ago
That said global warming is real.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:27 PM
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19. New England gets hurricanes-and their remnants.
I grew up on the seacoast of Massachusetts, and we would occasionally get hurricanes from September through October. We just had torrential rain (4-6")this weekend from Kyle (though not the high winds). The ocean water is often warm in MA in September because of the hurricanes that head up the coast.

Hurricane Bob blew part of my family's roof off in 1991. Winds were over 100 mph.

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