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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:46 PM
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US to waive Israelis' need for entry visa
US to waive Israelis' need for entry visa

Interior minister meets with US secretary of Homeland Security, deputy secretary of state to discuss Jewish state's visa-free status.

Administrations to form teams to propel move

Nurit Felter

Coming soon – a visa-free US trip?

The American administration has given its tenet consent to annul the US visa requirement for Israelis, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.



Israelis wishing to travel the US are required to have an entry visa. The process of obtaining one requires a fee, which currently stands on $131, a consulate interview and a lengthy wait. Despite the red tape, however, 98% of the applicants are granted a US visa.



Interior Minister Meir Sheetrit, who is on an official visit to the US, met Thursday with US Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff and Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, and discussed Israel's desire for a visa-free status.



The three agreed to form respective teams which would begin formulating the necessary changes in policy, right after Yom Kippur. The US did, however stipulate the change in Israel's compliance to switch its passport system from paper to biometric documents.



"This is a significant accomplishment," said Minister Sheetrit. "There is no reason for Israelis to have to go through the hassle of getting a visa… Israel doesn’t require Americans visiting it to have a visa and there is no reason for the US to demand that of Israelis."



Israel has recently become eligible for the US visa mitigation, under the State Department's guidelines. The US has also lifted the visa requirement several European countries, the likes of Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary and Slovakia, although they fall short on some of the mitigation requirements.



Chertoff claimed that Israel has never before appealed for a visa-free status officially, to which Minister Sheetrit said that he would be happy to submit an official request to that effect, on behalf of Israel and the Israeli public, immediately.



Chertoff gave his consent to the move, ordering a State Department inspection aimed at ensuring Israel meets the criteria.



The year 2008 has seen 313,000 Israelis travel to the United States.



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3604808,00.html
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:46 PM
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14. YEAH! And those Slovenians need to stay home too!
Keep your damn tourism dollars out of our stores you bastards! :grr:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:53 PM
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20. oh for fuck's sake, 27 other countries have a visa waiver.
this is hardly a big deal.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:59 PM
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2. Whaaa???? We have gone crazy.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:20 PM
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37. Why?
Britain is also on the visa-waiver programme. It doesn't mean that we just get in automatically - we have to have a valid passport; are subject to security checks; and it doesn't entitle us to stay indefinitely in the USA.

American nationals similarly don't need a visa to visit the UK - and the same goes for quite a lot of other countries.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:17 PM
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3. Big deal-- there are already 27 countries...
on the visa waiver program, and at least a half dozen more on the waiting list.

http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html

Can't imagine why Israel should be any less deserving of the list than San Marino or Slovenia.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:30 PM
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4. Tsk, tsk. You're ruining another fine DU hissy fit about Israel.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:30 PM
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32. Not from what I can see...
any hissyfit worth having is beyond ruination from mere facts.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:33 PM
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5. Go spread your facts elsewhere
they're not wanted here. ;-)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:30 PM
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33. My ol' pappy used to tell me...
"My mind is made up-- don't confuse me with facts."


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:41 PM
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and how about americans? do they get their visas waived when they enter israel?
thought not.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:42 PM
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8. Did you read the article?
thought not.
:eyes:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:01 PM
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24. depends on who you are & where you're going, doesn't it.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 04:03 PM by Hannah Bell
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS: The general entry and exit requirements for Americans traveling to Israel, the West Bank and Gaza are listed below. American citizens may be subject to special restrictions. American citizens are advised to read all sections of this sheet very carefully for special regulations that may affect their travel.

U.S. citizens who are also citizens of Israel must enter and depart Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza using their current Israeli passport. Israeli authorities require that U.S. citizens who have a Palestinian identification number, or who may have acquired a Palestinian identification number via their parents or grandparents, to enter and exit Israel, the West Bank and Gaza using their Palestinian Authority passport. Without the Palestinian Authority or Israeli passport, these Americans may be denied from entering or exiting Israel, the West Bank or Gaza, or may face serious delays at the ports of entry.

Individuals with a Palestinian Authority identity number, including American citizens, are required by Israeli authorities to enter the West Bank through the Allenby border crossing. They are not permitted by Israeli authorities to enter Israel through Ben Gurion International Airport unless they obtain in advance a transit permit for that purpose.

U.S. citizens are advised that all persons applying for entry to Israel, the West Bank, or Gaza are subject to security and criminal screening by the Government of Israel, and may be denied entry or exit without explanation.

American citizens who feel they have been wrongly denied entry to Israel or the West Bank should fill out the Denial of Entry Sheet which can be retrieved under the U.S. citizen services tab at the Jerusalem Consulate General’s web site at http://jerusalem.usconsulate.gov.

Israel: A passport valid for six months beyond duration of stay, an onward or return ticket, and proof of sufficient funds are required for entry. A no-charge, three-month visa may be issued upon arrival and may be renewed. Travelers carrying official or diplomatic U.S. passports must obtain visas from an Israeli embassy or consulate prior to arrival. Anyone who has been refused entry, experienced difficulties with his/her status during a previous visit, overstayed the authorized duration of a previous visit, or otherwise violated the terms of their admission to Israel should consult the Israeli Embassy or nearest Israeli Consulate before attempting to return. Anyone seeking returning resident status must obtain permission from Israeli authorities before traveling. The Government of Israel at times has declined to admit American citizens wishing to visit or travel to the West Bank or Gaza. Persons denied entry who seek immigration court hearings to contest such denials may be detained for prolonged periods while awaiting a hearing.

The Gaza Strip: The Department of State urges U.S. citizens to avoid all travel to the Gaza Strip, which is under the control of Hamas, a terrorist organization. American citizens in Gaza are advised to depart immediately. Please contact the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem for additional assistance if necessary. See the latest Travel Warning for Israel, the West Bank and Gaza for the latest information concerning travel to the Gaza Strip. Private vehicles may not cross from Israel into Gaza or from Gaza into Israel. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt and the Gaza Airport remain closed.

The West Bank: On March 4, 2007, the Government of Israel published a new West Bank visitor visa policy for foreign nationals. The policy states that the following are permitted foreign visitor categories:

Spouses of resident Palestinians registered in the West Bank population registry;
Children (up to age 16) of resident Palestinians;
Business people, investors, and bearers of West Bank work permits;
Staff of foreign missions in the West Bank
Representatives of international organizations in the West Bank;
Lecturers and consultants; and
Humanitarian cases; and others.
According to the written policy, American citizens “may transit to the West Bank via Israel after showing documents at the Ben Gurion airport or Allenby Bridge that confirm their status/position and the purpose of their visit, subject to inspection and approval by a representative of the Coordinator for Government Activities in the Territories.”

For extensions of visas of American citizens in the West Bank, the Government of Israel’s policy states:

“The following categories may request to extend their visa after the initial period for an additional period of up to one year (and no longer than 27 months total):

Spouses of resident Palestinians registered in the West Bank population registry
Children up to the age of 16 of resident Palestinians
Businesspersons/investors/bearers of a working permit for the West Bank
Humanitarian cases and others
”In order to extend the visa, they must apply to the Palestinian Population Registry in Ramallah. In special cases, they should turn to the Population Registry of the Israeli Ministry of Interior in Beit-El.

“The following categories may request an extension of their visa after the initial period for an additional period of up to 6 months (and no longer than a total of 27 months):

Staff of foreign missions in the West Bank
Representatives of international organizations in the West Bank.
In order to extend the visa, they must apply to the Head of the International Organization Department in the Israeli Civil Administration at Beit El or to the Population Registry of the Israeli Ministry of Interior.”

U.S. Citizens should note that these extensions are not automatic, and, that applicants often face significant bureaucratic hurdles to their application and that requests are often refused.

Finally, the Government of Israel policy notes:

“Foreign citizens whose passports were stamped recently with the words "Last Permit" may nonetheless leave the West Bank and submit a new visa request. .... However, the entry of individuals into Israel and the West Bank remains subject to imperative considerations of policy and security by the relevant authorities.”

U.S. citizens who have a Palestinian Authority ID number or whom the Government of Israel considers to have residency status in the West Bank or Gaza are advised to read very carefully the next section, entitled “Palestinian Americans.”

Palestinian Americans: It is possible that an American citizen born in the United States whose parents were born or lived in the West Bank or Gaza would be considered a resident of the West Bank or Gaza by Israeli authorities. Israeli authorities may consider American citizens to be residents of the West Bank or Gaza if there were born there, lived there, or have a Palestinian ID number.

The Government of Israel requires residents of the West Bank or Gaza to present valid Palestinian Authority travel documents when entering or leaving Israel. This requirement specifically applies to American citizens considered by the Government of Israel to be resident in the West Bank or Gaza, although in practice it often applies to transient visitors as well. American citizens resident in the West Bank or Gaza who arrive at any Israeli border point without a Palestinian passport will usually be granted permission to travel to the West Bank or Gaza to obtain one.

Individuals with a Palestinian Authority identity number, including American citizens, are required to enter the West Bank through the Allenby border crossing and Gaza through the Rafah border crossing when it is operational. They are not permitted to enter Israel through Ben Gurion International Airport unless they obtain in advance a transit permit for that purpose which is rarely issued and can be expensive and inconvenient. Permit applications must be submitted at least three working days prior to departure, although Israeli authorities may take considerably longer to render a decision. In practice, except in humanitarian or special interest cases Israeli authorities are unlikely to grant this permit. In the event a permit is denied, individuals with a Palestinian Authority identity number, including American citizens, must exit the West Bank via the crossing at Allenby Bridge into Jordan and from Gaza via the Rafah crossing into Egypt when it is operational. Specific questions may be addressed to the nearest Israeli Embassy or Consulate or, within Israel, the nearest office of the Ministry of the Interior. During periods of heightened security restrictions, American citizens with residency status in the West Bank or Gaza might not be allowed to enter or exit Gaza or the West Bank at all, even with an American passport.

Israel-Jordan Crossings: International crossing points between Israel and Jordan are the Arava crossing (Wadi al-'Arabah) in the south, near Eilat, and the Jordan River crossing (Sheikh Hussein Bridge) in the north, near Beit Shean. American citizens using these two crossing points to enter either Israel or Jordan need not obtain prior visas, but will have to pay the following fees:

Jordan River Crossing: Israeli exit fee of 68 NIS/US $15, Jordanian entry fee 5 Jordanian dinars.

Arava crossing: exit fee of 68 NIS/US $15, entry fee of 5 Jordanian dinars.

Visas should be obtained in advance for those wanting to cross the Allenby Bridge between Jordan and the West Bank. (Note: The Government of Israel requires that Palestinian Americans with residency status in the West Bank enter Jordan via the Allenby Bridge). Procedures for all three crossings into Jordan are subject to frequent changes. Persons with residency status in the West Bank or Gaza seeking to cross the Allenby Bridge from Jordan should contact the Jordanian authorities for information concerning special clearance procedures for Palestinian ID holders before traveling to the bridge. Visit the Embassy of Israel web site at: http://www.israelemb.org for the most current visa information.


http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1064.html.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:43 PM
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9. Perhaps you should have bothered to look into that... Yes they do
Or rather you automatically recieve one in the form of a stamp on your passport :eyes:

Where is the outrage towards any of the other countries on this list?

I think that encouraging tourism and more open borders would be a good thing? FFS we could use all the tourists we can get.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:31 PM
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34. They get a passport stamp when they enter-- same as a visa.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:33 PM
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35. DU poster fails to read OP carefully: film at 11.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:34 PM
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6. I can't even go to fucking Canada without a goddamn passport anymore
But the Israelis can walk right into this country??

If Chertoff loves Israel so goddamn much, why doesn't he move BACK there? And take all the rest of his treasonous Likud/PNAC/AIPAC shitheads with him.

And don't even bother with the "anti semite" shit. My comments aren't meant for the 98% of sane Jewish Americans out there who are as appalled by these bastards as I am.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:41 PM
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7. You do know the difference between a visa and a passport right?
Or the fact that 27 other countries have this agreement with us? But don't let that get in the way of an ignorant rant.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:44 PM
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11. All I know is that I'm personally going to throw a foaming at the mouth fit against Slovenia
that is completely removed from the realm of logic and reason.

Who's with me!?!?!?! :grr:
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:47 PM
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16. I am. Did you know that they speak Slovene?!? What is that?
English isn't good enough for them?!!!
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:48 PM
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17. Damn Murka haters is what they is!
We don't need their money!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:50 PM
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18. Ignorant rant, my shiny metal ass.
Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff is a treasonous Mossad piece of fucking shit who has no business holding a cabinet position of any kind in this country, much less being in charge of anything labeled "homeland security" - a name which itself is so blatantly fascist that no Jew should want any part of it in either case, but that's beside the point.

You either have border security, or you don't. There are a lot of terrorists in Israel. Just because Chertoff or Bush think those terrorists are on "our side" doesn't negate that fact.

Case in point.....


Here's an Israeli terrorist who needs to be deported RIGHT THE FUCK NOW for threatening the life of our next president.
His name is Doran Braunstein and he lives somewhere in New York.

Agent Mike, go arrest this bastard, and deport him. Visa or not.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:59 PM
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22. And there we have it - the blanket hatred
That guy does need to deported but he's hardly a terrorist, and Chertoff needs to be in jail... though he was born in NJ.

What does that have to do with the visa process? And for that matter this has nothing to do with your definition of terrorism. Under your definition every soldier is a terrorist so our military needs to be deported :eyes:

This is a question of tourism.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:06 PM
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25. No "blanket hatred" here at all. More like "blanket fairness"
If you don't have a legitimate Visa, you shouldn't get into this country. What's wrong with a consistent policy across the board? If you believe in REAL border security (as opposed to bullshit bureaucracies with Nazi-like names) then shouldn't the same rules apply to everyone?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:08 PM
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26. No. There are countries we like and trust, and those we don't
You don't seriously think that we should put visitors from Canada and visitors from Syria in the same group, do you?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:40 PM
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30. Canada is our next door neighbor. Quite literally in my case.
I can drive to Canada, spend the day there and drive home. And Canadians who live in the lower part of BC can do likewise. That should be a different situation for exactly that reason, as should Mexico. (and I'm not getting into an immigration sidebar on that one)

That's a different situation from flying in (or coming by boat) from another part of the world.

I don't favor a "North American Union" in the sense that the Freepers talk about it, but I do believe border security should be a consistent policy for the entire continent, and then less "being anal about it" at the US-Canadian or even US-Mexican borders.

As far what standard to apply to foreign visitors, go by individual background checks, not mass approval based on country of origin. Regardless of PNAC fantasies to the contrary, we aren't at war with Syria, and I'm certain that most Syrians could visit the US without incident. Same with most Israelis, with notable exceptions like that asshole I referred to above.

If you have a criminal record, you don't get in. It might need a bit of tweaking beyond that, but that's the general idea.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:31 PM
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40. 'Consistent across the board' - then do you think Brits shouldn't be on the non-visa scheme either?
Or are you confusing visas with passports?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:30 PM
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39. You seem to be conflating lots of different things.
Israelis don't need visas to visit Britain. But we didn't let the Israeli politician Feiglin come in, due to a record of 'hate-preaching'. Despite the 'special relationship' between Britain and America, we probably wouldn't let Fred Phelps in either, for same reason. He wasn't allowed into Canada because he had bad motives for entry, even though Canada and the US are obviously on non-visa terms.

Not needing a visa does *not* equal no border security; no need for passports; or no risk of deportation/entry refusal for criminal acts, security risk, or suspected bad motives for entry.

And as Chertoff was born in New Jersey (just checked in Wikipedia), I don't see how this issue applies to him anyway - he is a nasty right-winger, but that doesn't make him an Israeli or any other foreigner!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:10 PM
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45. Yes, let's start deporting American citizens.
:eyes:

Your 'rant' is ignorant and hate-filled, but hardly unexpected. Care to prove Chertoff is a Mossad agent? Or hey, even an Israeli citizen?

All this hate and virtol because Israeli citizens can now do what 26 other countries are allowed. Wow! That is some serious hate!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:23 PM
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38. No they cannot walk right into America without a passport.
Ye gods. Britain is on the same scheme and we definitely need to get a passport to visit the USA. It's not the same as 'just walking in'.

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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:43 PM
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10. No freebies for ANYONE. This country IS BROKE.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:44 PM
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12. YEAH so we should encourage our brokeass status by discouraging tourism!
:woohoo:
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:52 PM
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19. TFSTR
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:53 PM
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21. What does that mean please? TFSTR?
I would like to join you in your outrage but I'm not sure how.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:45 PM
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13. Wow there is some ignorance is this thread.
Idiots spouting off without even bothering to read the article.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:47 PM
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15. Reading is for elitists. My blanket hatred is enough for me
DOWN WITH SLOVENIA!!!!!!! :grr:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:59 PM
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23. You expected something better?
Just say "Israel" and watch the usual suspects fly into a frothing rage without any regard to the facts... like the difference between a visa and a passport or the fact that there are plenty of other countries getting the same treatment.

We can hardly expect them to reconsider their narrative that "Israel gets unique preferential treatment because the Jooz run everything" just because reality is totally different.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:26 AM
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36. RMDem, I'm interested to know the other countries which would receive the same Visa waivor.
Can you list them for us?

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:38 PM
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42. I'm not RMDem, but I have the list..
Andorra Iceland Norway
Australia Ireland Portugal
Austria Italy San Marino
Belgium Japan Singapore
Brunei Liechtenstein Slovenia
Denmark Luxembourg Spain
Finland Monaco Sweden
France the Netherlands Switzerland
Germany New Zealand United Kingdom



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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:37 PM
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47. Thanks
And to that list, I think we should add Uruguay. I perceive nothing threatening about them. Hey, they were on our side during World War Two!

Point being; no, this is not just about the international Jewish conspiracy, neocon fantasies about Iran, or whatever those other people think it is. Some countries just aren't worth hassling.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:04 PM
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44. You need them AGAIN?
Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-01-07 02:18 PM
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11. here
Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brunei, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom.

source


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1488319&mesg_id=1488641

This was from the FIRST time you posted this information: Israeli tourists may enter US without visa.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:22 PM
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27. I don't see what the issue is with this
:shrug:
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:30 PM
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28. Does this apply to Arab Israelis or just to Jewish Israelis?
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:39 PM
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29. Good damn question, one that a Sephardic friend of mine...
with a Palestinian birth certificate signed by a British governor would like the answer to.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:35 PM
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41. To both, I am sure. The visa waiver scheme is by country, not ethnicity
Now it's quite possible that an Israeli Arab would be subject to tighter security checks than a Jew; just as it's possible that a British citizen of Pakistani descent would be subject to tighter security checks than a white British citizen. There is too much racial profiling - but it has nothing to do with visa rules.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:48 PM
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31. Hi everyone. I posted this because I actually know very little about the visa process.
And I was hoping some of you might provide us with some insight and/or information on standard US visa policy.

Some of you have, and I appreciate the responses.

xoxo
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:59 PM
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43. And I can tell you...
... it's a bit of a pain in the ass to get them when required to travel to other countries, (plus additional cost), so I'm sure it's appreciated by tourists not having to go through the same crap to come here.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:23 PM
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46. Are they or are they not foreign nationals. and what is their business here?
Tourists, artists, moving company wanna-bees, Mossad? Seems a fair question to ask when someone from a FOREIGN country crosses your border and those are the questions asked for a visa. State your reasons for being here, why do you want to come? Seems fair...and prudent.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:02 PM
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48. Have you ever crossed an international border?
They ask those questions all the time at passport control. I've had to state my reason for visiting on entering other countries and talk about my reason for visiting foreign countries on my way back into the US. It's not complicated unless there's some reason you raise a red flag. Fortunately, telling the truth has worked for me so far. Telling the passport inspector "I was visiting Sweden 'cause I've wanted to go there for a long time" is no reason to start demanding visas and background checks for everybody.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:03 PM
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49. Why yes....
as far as crossing borders, Guam, the Azores, Canada, Spain, and Mexico and I was going to all those locations as a child of one who served. Why do ask, I had all my vaccinations?
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