As most of you know, the U.S. government will have to plunge our...

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

...republic still further into an already staggering debt by asking key foreign investors such as China to sponsor the lion's share of the $750B plus bailout.

Which of the following best describes the way you would like to see foreign investors collectively respond to our new mega-loan request?

---------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AYSdJgXnWY

[Double T]

1. 'yoUS' got to be 'F'ing kidding!

[whistle]

2. China can be given all Republican first born children for the next three generations

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

4. I like it, but I'm not so sure China would.

[whistle]

6. I suppose that's true, but let's let China decide that, they just might

...want them to work at the MacDonald's as burger flippers at three yen per hour with no benefits for life if we package the exchange that way!

[Cerridwen]

3. I had to vote "other."

I've noticed posts around DU that show the IMF is circling like vultures.

This has the potential for getting very, very ugly.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

5. Can you elaborate a bit?

I guess I missed those threads.

[Cerridwen]

11. I think one or two were in LBN. I don't think I bookmarked them

so I'll go search and see if I can find them (it?)

Edit to add links: These stories started popping up just before the bailout. Perhaps they're just hyperbole to get the bill passed. I may have missed a few stories. Things were happening pretty fast there for a few days.

Fed aids money markets; IMF readies rescues

Because we're in a global market and what happens elsewhere can effect us[br />
"Moves by Hungary, Ukraine and Belarus to seek emergency loans from the IMF have now set off a dangerous chain reaction across Eastern Europe."

IMF warns of financial meltdown



Global financial system on brink of meltdown: IMF

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

16. Thanks -- I appreciate your digging that stuff up.

[Cerridwen]

19. You're welcome.

I should have included them in my first reply to you. I was being lazy and tired. :D

[Cerridwen]

12. I added links in my previous post. n/t

[NYC_SKP]

7. "Sod off", let us halve our defense budget, institute a "maximum wage"...

...put some overpriced suits out to pasture.

Invest in infrastructure and research instead of defense, no net loss of jobs.

Outlaw no-bid contracts.

No government contracts unless vendors have profit sharing program and health care for employees and a "maximum wage" for top execs.

These would be a start.

Tough love.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

8. I'd support all of that.

Also, a minor point, I think we should call it the "military" budget rather than "defense."

The constant use of the word "defense" when discussing our military budget is part of their propaganda.

[NYC_SKP]

21. Great point....

And I want a "Department of Peace" and a cabinet position, "Secretary of Peace"...

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

25. That would be a great title...

...imagine the Secretary of Peace standing up to give a speech inciting the masses to support an illegal invasion based on flimsy unsubstantiated WMD claims such as what we've done in Iraq.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

9. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

10. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

13. Kick for a larger sample.

[trudyco]

14. Aren't I supporting them with the money I put into Tbills? -nt

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

18. Probably so, but they just don't have a deep enough...

...well of T-bill receipts to plunder -- gotta borrow.

[Greyhound]

15. They will loan us as much as we want at the terms we will dictate.

None of them can afford to let our system collapse, for if they did, their's would fall even harder. This situation will not last forever, once there is an alternative market large enough to absorb the output of their products, then they will drop us like a flaming turd, but for now we can still call the shots.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. The more I read, the more convinced I become that the wordwide...

...collapse of fiat currency and the Ponzi Scheme on which it's based not only could happen, but NEEDS to happen.

---snip---

As we all sit back and wait for this year’s October Surprise, please know that it came a little bit early this year -- on September 15 which will forever be known as Black Monday. Actually, the entire month of October is set up to be a series of Black Mondays, as well as every other day of the week is shaping up to be. It’s really a good time to brace yourself since this year’s election cycle, and beyond, will bring with it a whole new season of surprises. Things like the beginning of the end of fiat money -- the real root cause of all our financial problems and economic ills. This foundational flaw, together with all of the multi-layered financial/economic/accounting mechanisms and schemes that have insidiously crept into the system, are the ‘not talked about’ institutionalized culprits and structural deformities that really need to go. Without them, the perps wouldn’t be so tempted to stack the deck against us all the time. . .

Source: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3904.shtml

[Liberal_in_LA]

20. kick for more voting

[alfredo]

22. Other: Turn bush and his junta over to the Hague and we will say yes.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

23. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

24. Kick for a larger sample.

[NYC_SKP]

26. Let me help... DU this DU poll!

:kick:

[TheKentuckian]

27. I'm tittering on the verge of yes because if we get a no

then the printing presses fire up and the inflation begins in earnest.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

28. Possibly so, I don't trust the Fed at all.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

29. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

30. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

31. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

32. Kick for a larger sample.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

33. Kick for a larger sample.

[onethatcares]

34. payday loans are a beotch. and I think

they'd rather go that route. Man, we're screwn as far as the social safety net, and government policies that actually benefit all of us while the wealthiest go sniffing truffles in faraway lands.