Is Palin really so obtuse that she thinks she has a chance in hell in 2012? This baffles me.

[Lil Missy]

She seems to think she is now the voice and anointed Savior of the R Party, and has a lock on the 2012 party nomination. AND, did so prematurely, with a subtle suggestion that McSame has already lost this one, and she is not doing this for nothing. She threw McSame under the bus during the last days of the campaign, and before the votes have even been counted!

:wtf:

Does she seriously think she can "burn the one that brung her", and ever be taken seriously again? The scary thing is that I think she does! She'd be eaten alive in the Primaries, if she even got that far in the first place. What the HELL is she thinking??

But I do enjoy watching her, McGrumbles, and the party go down in flames like this. I especially love the stories coming out about the friction and fighting among the camps. (Please provide links to those stories in this thread, they soothe me!)

I am just honestly incredulous at how obtuse and stoopid, and even delusional she must be. She's fuckin' scary. I wouldn't trust her to care for my plants.

All the better for us in the end. But man, it's pretty pitiful to watch.

Edit: spelling

[fishnfla]

1. Look how far Dan Quayle went

[Old Codger]

5. None

No chance whatsoever, no vice presidential candidate from the losing team has gone on to be much of anything... we remember them but that is about it. This one will be remembered as large joke, she will be talked about on late night talk shows for a while then fade off into the arctic wilderness that she belongs in.

[cobalt1999]

25. Nixon?

He went on to be quite memorable. Oh, that's right he lost running as a sitting vp.

[Lil Missy]

34. As I recall, that did not turn out too well. n/t

[Old Codger]

64. Right

He lost running for the #1 slot not as a VP candidate... Quayle lost, tried and failed to run for #1 , Graldine Ferraro, she pretty much faded away, Humphry too if I recall correctly...Most losers do not try again, Kerry, Dean etc. The big black mark of having lost once seems to taint them and usually they don't try again.. (Nixon is the exception and that went well for sure....):sarcasm:

[canetoad]

2. She is too arrogant

and full of her own self that she fails to see WHY she was tapped as VP nom, which was the pitiful last-ditch attempt of a party who fully expected to be pasted to the walls at this election. Her selection is nothing more than a social experiment; to see exactly how far the GOP can go in pushing the buttons of the hard right-wingers.

[Lil Missy]

53. Arrogance I understand. Story of the last 8 years.

But why she thinks getting tapped as a Hail Mary pass to the ignorant masses as a cutesy dumb show piece is a compliment is beyond me.

Savior or 2012? She's delusional!

I think I am mostly disturbed that the "base" is really this stupid. Again!



:scared:

[Whoa_Nelly]

3. She's an eglomaniac

with delusions of grandeur.

e·go·ma·ni·a
n.
Obsessive preoccupation with the self.


Oh.

And she's a twit.



Main Entry:

Pronunciation:
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Function:
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1 : an act of twitting : taunt 2 : a silly annoying person : fool

[old mark]

4. Missy, I think Palin and McCain both have people around

them telling them what they want to hear.
They are believing their own lies, and rality only gets through to them occasionally. Don't forget, Palin had that "Chosen by God" thing as well.

They both are in for a big shock Tuesday night.

mark

[marlakay]

75. I read somewhere they haven't been letting Sarah

watch the news and they are keeping her in a closed off from knowing whats going on.

After the election when she starts going online and hearing what people really think. She will probably hide out at her house!

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. Hell george thought he had a chance in '00 even though he admitted he was nothing more than a media

creation and he was. And so is sarah. He was delusional, pumped up by the media, sarah is following the same path. Not much difference between the two, except her meteoric rise to political fame was much faster than his.

[Lil Missy]

13. Difference is that sarah would really insist on being in charge!

And she thinks she has a chance!

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. True there and very scary. Fortunately for us, Obama is going to WIN!

:woohoo: And sarah the poser/corporate media creation can go back to Alaska. :bounce:

[Lil Missy]

33. Indeed Obama WILL WIN!!!

Now it's just a matter of how BIG!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[WA98296]

7. Likely result of Narcissistic Personality Disorder...

Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, need for admiration, extreme self-involvement.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. Just like george W.

[samplegirl]

9. I wanna know what drugs shes on???

Guess thats why she has not produced her medical records yet.

[Lil Missy]

54. I wanna know what drugs she's not taking that she should be!

[mithnanthy]

78. I'll play....

"name that drug". In Palin's case, I'll guess Meth...in small daily amounts. That would explain the endless energy, weight under control, inflated ego, jaw and tongue movements. The other day I saw the look of "kookin", on her face.(ran out of supply?). My experience comes from working in many nightclubs in the 1980's, managing bands, and having go-go girls as acquaintances. It was their favorite drug. Ya don't need much sleep on meth,..endless energy, little appetite, doncha know.

[Lil Missy]

83. In what respect, Charlie?

That's just silly, she's not taking meth. She's just really that batshit crazy.

[anakie]

87. and Wasila is the meth (math LOL) capital of Alaska

so getting it is no problem.

Peace

[Lil Missy]

88. Oh, C'mon! Do you seriously think she is a meth addict?

That's just absurd, and suggestions like that just make DU look silly.

Puh-leeze!

[BattyDem]

10. In hell, she might ... in the US, not so much.

:evilgrin:

[opihimoimoi]

11. Self Centered Conceit often over whelms Reason, Logic, and Sanity....this is clearly a case

illustrating the statement....Palin has a lot to learn before she embarks Nationally....ethics, manners, empathy, courtesy, discourse, etc....

Her lexicon should include Positiveness, Advancing, Healing, and Vision. Then she would be catching up to Obama who has a Lock on PLUS......

So Far any way.....

:toast:

She don't have it .....not now...not ever....

[Lil Missy]

24. Not to mention throwing the TOP of the ticket under the bus, and BEFORE the election!

Political suicide!

And to think some freepers take her seriously, and even worship her. :eyes: But in the end, it also says a lot for McGramps judgment, and that is not good. I love it when they so desperate and shoot themselves in the foot.

I believe Obama would win this election no matter who he ran against. But this is like shooting fish in a barrel. I should write a thank you to his campaign for assuring us a landslide victory.

[opihimoimoi]

55. Its almost as if the Pub Masters used McMoot as a PoliCide....

Don't worry we gotcha back...we will send Bush to help out....and and Arnie too....

[ProfessorGAC]

59. That's What It Is, Opi

Here in Illinois we've got a thing called being "topinka-ed".

Judy Barr-Topinka was a repub powerbroker who brought Alan Keyes to IL to run against Obama for Senate, knowing full well he would get slaughtered.

Judy has been a moderate for her whole career, and it's been presumed that this was her and her allies way of getting the radical right to shut the hell up,

They brought in a black man to run against Obama (just like brining in Palin to use a woman to run against a black man). The "outsider" they brought in is really a nutjob. (Palin and Keyes) The radical right is the only visible means of support for this particular candidate. Keyes brought down the whole Republican ticket. Palin is going to bring down McCain to a resounding defeat.

I think the Rockefeller and Goldwater repubs are getting their revenge.
The Professor

[opihimoimoi]

61. ".....getting their revenge....." This is starting to get Outta Hand Ridiculus....LOL

:toast:

[Lil Missy]

68. Great Analogy. Thanks.

[cobalt1999]

12. She's a creationist, how much more delusional does she have to be?

I figure once she crossed the creationist bridge, there is a whole world of possibilities that are possible, from unicorns to President Palin.

[Lil Missy]

15. Hey! I believe in Unicorns!

:P

[pocoloco]

22. There is no such thing as a

right wing Unicorn!!

[Lil Missy]

32. Whew! Thanks!

:hi:

[Critters2]

14. I think the GOP is on the verge of a split. The coalition is breaking up.

The fundie-crazy wing will support her and leave the party when she doesn't get the support they want. But the fiscal conservatives and PNAC types--you know, the Republicans with degrees--will never back her. They won't be able to control her minions the way they've done with the fundies until now. And the whole thing'll collapse like a house of cards.

Should be fun to watch!!

[Lil Missy]

20. The GOP is going down in flames, and probably most due to the fundies.

I will enjoy watching this too.

It's just too bad that things had to get this ridiculous and absurd. And cause so much damage.

:hi:

[foxfeet]

82. From your mouth (or keyboard) to the ear of the Goddess.

[Ghost in the Machine]

35. Ummmm.. excuse me, but William Kristol, the *head* PNACer, picked Palin

Here's a link to several sources:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGQD_enUS264US264&q=kristol+chose+palin

[Critters2]

39. Yeah, but even the PNAC'ers are divided on this.

You don't maintain a coalition with these kinds of tensions.

[Lil Missy]

45. That's even worse. An actual literate person, a PNACer, has to stoop so low.

That just tells me WK and his neocon ilk are so desperate they have to dig to the bottom of the barrel of stupidity and ignorance to sell their wares. They are crumbling under their own weight and that had to be a Hail Mary pass.

They cannot count on the ignorance of the masses anymore, but they tried it again anyway. What is even more troubling is that McSame would go for it. How fuckin' pitiful. I kinda wonder if it was an attempt at a face saving measure because they knew they would lose, but wanted to whip the base into a frenzy so the loss would not be as bad.

I think that backfired. And may they all spend eternity doing circle jerks together, wishing, planning, and plotting, while the rest of us move on without them.

[pnwmom]

16. Actually, her instincts might well be correct. It's others who may be being

obtuse.

She wouldn't be the first charismatic fascist to win a western election, would she? And we can't count on free and fair elections, can we?

[salguine]

17. You're watching epic, towering narcissism in full flower.

[kanrok]

18. Oh, please oh please oh please oh please

let Palin be the repuke standard bearer in 2012....please, please please please please...PLEASE!!!!

[upi402]

19. Republicans admire arrogance coupled with batshit crazy. nt/

[opihimoimoi]

28. You are so right.....they are in love w themselves as well...conceit...

[vixengrl]

21. The thing is, there are people feeding the beast--

(Before I get a comment, I'm not calling her a "beast", but her ego.)

Some right-wing pundits are seriously calling her the future of the Republican Party, and seriously intend to groom her as such. Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol love her to bits. But what the Republican party has to understand about her is, even if she has a great personal narrative ("it's about narratives, and it's bullshit!" is how I believe Peggy Noonan put it, however sub rosa that observation was intended) and can speak fluently evangel-ese, and even if she can deliver the kind of message that speaks to the "have a beer with" ham-and-eggers, she is scaring off the smart people.

Of the Obamacans who have endorsed post-Palin selection, it seems most if not all of them have had something to say about her selection, and it was negative. She's not experienced. She won't be ready on Day One. Her selection was about the campaign, but not the administration. Even some people who can still be expected to pull the lever for McCain, like David Frum, have expressed their misgivings about her. Larry Eagleburger just said she wasn't ready. When people like Christopher Buckley, Colin Powell, Ken Adelman, are jumping ship, it's not the time to be promising that people who are anti-Palin are going to be victims of the in-house fatwa. They should be wondering why a Buckley walks out on the party's main ticket, and they still have Bill Kristol. (What's the deal with Bill "wrong about stuff" Kristol, anyway? Is he like, someone's *kid*? I know. I'm just teasing.) David Frum says they need to figure out where conservatism is going, post-election, and the Dobson people and the NRA people are saying "Where Sarah takes us!"

Palin is still "young" in political terms, and if she makes her way back to Alaska and doesn't messs anything up, even if she doesn't get into the VP slot, she still could, maybe, pull a career out of politics. The people who speculate she could finagle her way into Steven's seat are positing the most likely scenario for her getting White House-level aspirations again. Based on her performance in regard to ethics scandals, though, I don't know she'll get there, and I also am not really positive she has the ability to do much as a senator. It takes a little more "work." Book work. You know?

My prediction for 2012 is she takes Dick Morris' advice and goes into the primary as the "outsider", but comes off fringe-y and still unprepared when debating against people who actually are of that caliber. And ethics issues will haunt her since she *will* be more watched having been a national candidate--it's just common sense. Who beats her in the primary depends a lot on which way the party actually goes. It could be a social-moderate/fiscal conservative--the Romney blend, I guess. Probably not Mitt himself, but you know. Of the breed. But it'll probably end up being somebody like Lindsey Graham. With his running mate, Joe Lieberman.


:rofl:

[opihimoimoi]

30. The Attention Whore...if I could be so blunt?? Vain and Opportunistic she

ventures on into DC....

[Lil Missy]

37. ... and will fall flat on her face. She cannot survive the big kids playground.

[opihimoimoi]

44. Yep, Diff set of rules and conduct....She is Ignorant beyond rehab...

Not ready for Prime time,,,,maybe in 10 years....

[Lil Missy]

36. You're too nice, she IS part of "beast".

But that "beast" has already over its hand and people have caught on. The repuke party as we know it, (suffered it), is self-destructing. The hubris was overwhelming, and finally has gone full circle to bite them in the ass.

I disagree about her having a political future. I don't think she could be elected as a dog catcher after this debacle. (No offense to dog catchers intended.)

[cliffordu]

26. If she's in hell, I hope she has a chance.

[Kazak]

27. Uhm, yeah, er, I think she'd be a really strong candidate.

*ahem*shuddup*cough*

[BlooInBloo]

29. Run Palin, RUN!!!

:rofl:

[Catherine Vincent]

31. Well if 59 million people can be dumb enough to vote for W, then anything's possible.

[Lil Missy]

38. Daddy bought both Elections, and they still had to steal them.

[TreasonousBastard]

40. You mean the woman who came from nowhere to...

win the Governor's seat?

That one? The one with so little political savvy and ambition she's not only Governor, but running for VP?

I would hope she doesn't have a chance in hell, but this IS the country that managed to elect the sorriest fucker in Presidential history-- twice.

[Lil Missy]

47. Listen you TreasonousBastard!

I don't have anything to say or dispute. I just wanted to say:

"Listen you TreasonousBastard!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:pals:

[Douglas Carpenter]

41. It is more than a little likely that many of the hardline right-wingers will push for her to run in

2012.

With three to four years to spiffy herself up and to acquire the appearance of gravitas and by then a claim of 6 years as a Governor or Governor then Senator - I could imagine her as a significant competitor for the GOP nomination - especially considering that the GOP does not have any visible heir apparent at this time. The right-wing does not have any Reagan or George W. waiting in the wings.

[Lil Missy]

49. And I think the right-wing overplayed that hand, and thanks to the hubris and GW it's over.

I think her career is over. Let's compare notes in a couple years.

:)

[kskiska]

42. Jeb is watching…

and waiting. He could decide that 2012 is his year. How will he compare to Palin?

[Lil Missy]

50. I think his big brother long ago ruined any chances of that happening. n/t

[burythehatchet]

43. Admiral Stockdale has a better chance at a comeback

[BrotherBuzz]

48. Vice Admiral Who am I? Why am I here? ...

I hardly knew the man, then he was GONE!

[FM Arouet666]

46. Careful, you could have said the same about 'W'

Look how that sorry dumb cow poke turned out.

Repugs are intellectually bankrupt and their base;

greedy, racist, war mongering, evangelical, simpleton,

is large enough to vote another nimrod into office.

[Lil Missy]

51. W had an ultra rich Daddy and family dynasty to buy him the office.

And then they STILL had to steal both Elections!

sarah mcpoopflakes doesn't even have that much. She's toast.

But that is not to say that the intellectually bankrupt, greedy, bigoted, war mongering, evangelical, simpletons won't find another nimrod to support.

I just don't think it's going to be sarah. She has burned her bridges already.

And Obama will be re-elected in 2012 anyway. :)

[JackRiddler]

52. Many exactly like her and just as ludicrous made it further than you think possible. nt

[Lil Missy]

57. I've seen it in the corporate world. And then there is Rush, Billo, Coulter, etc.

[Swamp Rat]

56. Actually, she has more than a chance in Hell.

She may even go there sometime soon.

[Leopolds Ghost]

58. We can only hope n/t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

60. If by "obtuse" you mean "batshit crazy"...

Yes

[ProfessorGAC]

62. Good One!

I like it! And, you are completely correct, of course.
The Professor

[DrDan]

63. hey - junior was elected twice

she just needs to latch on to her own KKKarl rove.

[Warpy]

65. She's backed by the Council for National Policy

and it's always been their intent to turn this country into a fascist theocracy.

She thinks she'll win in 2012 because of that.

What I think is that the next four years will demonstrate a power battle in that party between the old corporate and moneyed interests and the Christofascists.

Whatever the outcome, it will be very interesting to watch.

[bunkerbuster1]

66. Only ONE losing VP in the past 88 years has gone on to win the Presidency

However...



we shouldn't forget how significant that particular loser-VP wound up becoming.

[fed_up_mother]

67. I plan on voting for her in the primaries in four years. We all should!

:rofl:

Let's give 'em what they want!

[Lil Missy]

69. In 2012 I assume Obama will be so popular that the R party may need a throw-away candidate.

Palin would be the perfect choice! :D

[Cleita]

70. She'd better consult with Katherine Harris about that. Ms. Harris

was certainly brought crashing down to earth about her delusions when the Republican Party turned their backs on her. They will do the same to Caribou Barbie.

[Lil Missy]

72. Exactly. I was thinking about KH too!

No matter how popular sarah is with the rabid right, she can't do it without the party backing her.

[gollygee]

71. Please, oh PLEASE, GOP - hear my prayers and make her the candidate in 2012!!!

That sounds like a GREAT plan! I'm sure she'd make a wonderful candidate!!!

:D LOL

(I would LOVE to have 8 years of Obama and that would make him a shoo-in!)

[Elidor]

73. I'm certain she can score enough donations from the fundies to do the exploratory committee thing

You know, do some polling, collect money for a possible run. But those polls will tell her all she ever needs to know about her political future in the lower 48. She's not going anywhere.

[TheFarseer]

74. She's totally unelectable

I think everyone but lunatic fringe (which includes Palin herself) knows that. It will be fun to see if she can rally enough lunatics to get her the nomination in 2012.

[Lil Missy]

76. She might be good for one reason- if they need a throw-away candidate to run against a popular Obama

[Indenturedebtor]

77. Shhhh we want her to run in 2012! SILENCIO POR FAVOR! n/t

[Sheepshank]

79. how fast are the evangelicals growing?

She certainly appeals to the fundies and the evangelical group. Could that be her base?

[fed_up_mother]

80. They've peaked. I don't think they're "growing" anymore

[Lil Missy]

81. fundies and evangelical probably are her base, but they've already overplayed that hand.

But I do think the party might back her in 2012 if they realize no R candidate can win against a popular Obama. They'll need a throw away candidate, and she is perfect for it.

And she's stoopid enough to consider it a compliment. :eyes:

[VOX]

84. How much of a wardrobe allowance will she require in 2012?

The threads she spent $150,000 on this year will be so out of date! :grr:

[Lil Missy]

85. Maybe 250K by then. But as long as the RNC pays for it, who cares?

It would be worth every penny to use her as a throw-away candidate and put a final nail into her career.

[VoodooGuru]

86. She's really that obtuse.

And so are her fans.

This is going to be fun. :popcorn:

[stewartcolbert08]

89. You Betcha! ;)