Mira
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Fri Oct-31-08 11:54 PM
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I'd poll you if I knew how to post one :) Please chime in about this racist statement. |
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Yesterday, in a last minute endorsement of John McCain for President, the Winston-Salem NC Journal in it's awkwardly worded explanation said this about Sen. Obama:
"Regardless of how this election comes out, he has shown the world that America is still the land of opportunity, a place where even the son of a multiracial couple, one of the pair being an immigrant, can rise to enormous heights".
Sidenote: I wrote a LTE in protest and cancelled my 40 year subscription.
But, since yesterday, the racist and paternizing overtones of that sentence won't leave me alone.
If I were black, I would simply be demoralized. I would consider the unprecedentedly perfect and brilliant campaign we have witnessed; yet it is still not enough to overcome.
The word "even" simply rots my gut. And we are all immigrants.
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Fri Oct-31-08 11:59 PM
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1. Thinking that an insult is a compliment is a sure sign of ignorance. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 11:59 PM by BrklynLiberal
I guess the editors did not know any better...
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:19 AM
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7. It was an insult wrapped in a 'compliment' and that is what made it so bad. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:46 AM
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13. My thoughts exactly! Blue State Native. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:07 AM
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2. Considering he is the first multiracial candidate to get this far |
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I really don't see the racism in that line.
I know we like to pretend that race doesn't matter but this is the United States and it has always mattered. Barack is changing all that, one vote at a time.
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:08 AM
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3. I think "even" is what makes it questionable. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:15 AM
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6. I think you're looking too much into it |
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But I know I'll be in the minority here.
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Mira
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:26 AM
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9. Might that be the insidiousness of racism, that you can gloss over if |
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it does not pertain to you, or that you can't notice unless you are "Black" a "Woman" an "immigrant" etc. (I'm two out of those three, you guess which two :) :)
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:37 AM
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21. I am a Hispanic son of a Colombian immigrant |
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And I didn't get offended by it. It is the truth. We have not seen anybody but white males run this country so it's not inaccurate or offensive for a paper to say that "even" a multiracial man can make the presidency because before Obama, it just wasn't happening.
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:29 AM
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10. That's the word that does it for me too-- |
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like "Even the shoeless and backwards!" or something. "Even the dubiously sired and hastily-raised!" "Even self-befouled tatterdemalions!" "Even the people who lack country-club memberships!" There is a perceptible "sniff" from a long nose frequently looked down, if I've heard that word "even" correctly.
It sort of implies: he is who he is, and he got as far as he got, and America should win a prize...we let everybody *think* they can be president.
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Mira
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Sat Nov-01-08 01:01 AM
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15. Oh I so like your command of putting thinking into language |
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:26 AM
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Any compliment that starts with "Even <insert group here> can <insert action here> in this country" is not really a compliment. I'm not even sure why this is considered a point for debate. Is it not obvious?
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:40 AM
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23. The paper endorsed McCain. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:11 AM
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4. Barack Obama, Sr. was NOT an immigrant. |
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He was here on a student visa and did not announce or demonstrate any intention to reside permanently in the U.S.
I really wish folks would be a bit more diligent in the terms they use.
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:39 AM
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It's as if the person who wrote doesn't actually know the circumstances of Obama's parentage. Embarrassingly bad, for them.
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:12 AM
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sounds fine to me particularly from NC
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Mira
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:19 AM
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8. I might just be overly sensitive - your comment |
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about "particularly from NC" strikes me as judgmental too. We are all evolving and the Jesse Helms NC no longer exists. I hope very much we can turn blue this time and prove it.
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Sat Nov-01-08 05:32 AM
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am from the south originally. No judgement intended jeeeeesh
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:30 AM
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20. How about if I put it this way |
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That crossword puzzle was rather easy to solve; even someone from North Carolina should finish it quickly.
Would you still think that the use of the word "even" is innocuous?
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:38 AM
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11. Sorry, this is off topic |
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But I've got to say they've given one of the weirdest rationales for an endorsement I've ever seen -- that the inept bumbler on the campaign trail will morph into straight talkin' two-fisted John McCain if we put him into office. It'll only cost the presidency to find out he won't be the idiot we're seeing today :crazy: http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/oct/30/election-08-president/opinion/
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Mira
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Sat Nov-01-08 12:56 AM
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14. You are only enlarging the picture., I posted the ridiculously |
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worded endorsement yesterday, which in essence was supporting the McCain he once was to them before he deteriorated into the specimen we are now confronted with. One that will never ever return to it's original dimensions, because his time on earth is running out.
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Sat Nov-01-08 01:06 AM
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16. i'm responding to your op, but i wanted you to see this |
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Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 01:07 AM by orleans
i call that sort of thing a "back-handed compliment"
& TahitiNut is right--barack's father was not an immigrant
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:28 AM
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That says it. I feel that way too, that there are people out there who would even think or talk that way. Im a whitey but it demoralizes me too.
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:39 AM
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22. Unfortunately, a common attitude in the Winston-Salem area. |
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