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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:07 PM
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The Messiah Is Here
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 01:32 PM by No DUplicitous DUpe
The Messiah Is Here
Reposted from http://www.saneramblings.com (with permission)

"Barack Obama is the answer," Julie said with fire in her voice. "When he's President, things are really going to change."

"I'm sick of Bush," added Jim. "His lies and his endless wars, torture, spying, corruption and greed. He's the guy more than any other responsible for that Wall Street bailout of rich thieves."

Across America people are speaking like this, as are others elsewhere in the world. In desperation some people talk of Obama as the Messiah who will save us from the ravages of war and a potential financial collapse while leading us into energy independence and out of global warming.

Those who think of Obama as the Messiah will be greatly disappointed as he is as imperfect as the rest of us. And our problems are so severe, that casting a vote and waiting for him to solve them will fail.

Once he takes office he will face a power structure that gives little ground and his campaign promises mean nothing to them. The Pentagon and their contractors, national security organizations such as the NSA and the CIA, giant oil companies, big pharmaceutical firms and other huge entrenched interests and their lobbyists are determined to continue to have their way.

At best, Obama can offer inspirational leadership to accomplish a vision for America he can express and unite us behind. At worst, he can compound our problems by continuing the current policies of spending huge sums of money we don't have on endless wars and corporate bailouts and subsidies.

Ideally, he will spend money to help people in desperate need and to secure Social Security, Medicare and other vital social programs. But if he does it with unfunded dollars, meaning he doesn't slash the budget elsewhere a like amount or RAISE TAXES to pay for it, we will sink even deeper into debt, like a financial Titanic, for as the Wall Street bailout shows us we have now hit the iceberg. Our financial security is in grave danger.

But take heart for the Messiah is here.

Jesus, who some people claim is the Messiah, said the Kindom of God is within each of us. If so, the Messiah is you, me and the rest of humanity. And as imperfect as we are individually, together we can move mountains.

And move mountains we must because we have Mt. Everest size problems. Fortunately there are many quality organizations set up to deal individually with the elements which underly most of our problems: hunger, disease, ignorance, warfare and lack of government accountability.

We can each pick one organization and volunteer some time and/or make regular donations to them. We can encourage them with our commitment of resources and our supportive letters and emails, thus letting them know we are thankful for their work, not indifferent.

If as Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within, we must now rise to that stature and take action to uplift our nation and to save humanity from disaster.

http://saneramblings.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=1
(edited to bold 10 words)
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:11 PM
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1. I have to chime in here... Stop with the Obama the Messiah crap. It only feeds the fears of fundies
Stop it. Stop it.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:18 PM
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4. Did you read the OP?
"Those who think of Obama as the Messiah will be greatly disappointed as he is as imperfect as the rest of us. And our problems are so severe, that casting a vote and waiting for him to solve them will fail."

The point is that he's NOT the Messiah, and people need to stop treating him as if he is.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:22 PM
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8. Thank you, Iwfern.
I thought the point of this column was pretty easy to understand..That we must all take part in the change we want to see happen in the world.

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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:18 PM
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5. Try reading the whole post. It only takes a minute...
"Those who think of Obama as the Messiah will be greatly disappointed as he is as imperfect as the rest of us".

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:20 PM
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7. This is the part that scares me:
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 01:21 PM by Lex
"Across America people are speaking like this, as are others elsewhere in the world. In desperation some people talk of Obama as the Messiah who will save us from the ravages of war and a potential financial collapse while leading us into energy independence and out of global warming."


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:27 PM
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11. I think most of the people who are saying this are the Repukes when mocking him.
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Barbara2423 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:24 PM
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9. Stop the Messiah Crap Part II
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 01:31 PM by Barbara2423
Barack is not the Messiah. He is a imperfect Christian man who lets the public know that on many occasions. This is an adult site who support Democrats. When someone posts nonsense like this it makes me think you are a republican in sheep's clothing who support McCain/Palin. Adults know Barack is not the Messiah. People on this site are on our way to the White House.
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:15 PM
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2. Since I am a Humanist,
I do not see a religious aspect to Obama. I do believe however, that this man is one in a trillion. He is very special in that he has the best interests of the majority in mind and is not afraid to stand up for us. He has a way of expressing himself that will serve him well when he deals with, not only the problems in our country, but the problems in the rest of the world. I believe that he will be able to discuss differences with the leaders of all countries and get his point across while understanding theirs. We are very fortunate to have someone as unique as he is to bring this country together and, hopefully, show the world that there are better ways to solve disputes other than war.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:18 PM
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3. WTF?!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:19 PM
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6. That is some scary religious kool-aid
someone is drinking.

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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:28 PM
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12. I don't drink kool-aid and I don't believe in god....
But I am able to read, and I understand and agree with the points made in this commentary.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:30 PM
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13. Here's the part that's scary, the premise of the whole article:
"Across America people are speaking like this, as are others elsewhere in the world. In desperation some people talk of Obama as the Messiah who will save us from the ravages of war and a potential financial collapse while leading us into energy independence and out of global warming."


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:26 PM
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10. As we are all Buddhas but some of us have a little more schmutz (dirt) on us than others.
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TKolmsi Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 04:22 PM
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14. So unfair to expect this of Obama
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:09 PM
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15. Please do not post articles like this here
as some may believe we are in agreement with it. Also, you are only suppose to post four paragraphs of an article I believe and this is way over four. :puke:
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:36 PM
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17. Please read posts before commenting on them.
1) It was reposting here with permission. If the author gives permission to post more than 4 paragraphs, it's not a copyright violation.

2) You're worried some may believe we are in agreement with an article saying "don't treat Obama like a Mesiah"?
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:29 AM
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19. ooooops!
long semi-bad day.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:25 PM
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22. No problem.
To be honest, that was my first reaction on reading the thread title, too. I am fed up with the mesiah meme, but was relieved to see the author was, also. Sorry for being snippy in my response, too. I wasn't having a bad day exactly, but I have some papers due tonight, and some stress over that probably affected my tact level.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:15 PM
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16. Obama is an inspirational leader but he is no messiah or son of a God.
People shouldn't allude to that even if to just make a point. There are too many delusional people out there. Just listen to C-Span any Sunday to the callers who phone in. I was appalled at what I heard today from ordinary Americans who should know better.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:39 PM
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18. Gracias
:hi: :hug:




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Holy Damn Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:53 AM
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20. Obama
Obama is an inspirational leader but he is no messiah or son of a God. People shouldn't allude to that even if to just make a point.



Agreed.


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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:23 AM
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21. "the Messiah is you, me and the rest of humanity. "
It would be nice if people actually read the article first.

Hey,everyone.We are the ones we have been waiting on.If we want to change the world it is up to US to do so.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:28 PM
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23. Posts like this aren't helpful, IMO. NT
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:35 PM
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24. Barack Obama is ONLY where he is with our support
he is a culmination of our ideas, our fighting against oppression and bad government. Barack is a good man but he is us.
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