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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:25 PM
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The time has come for compulsory chemotherapy treatment for everyone who lives near a hospital
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 07:26 PM by Boojatta
1. Cigarette smoking is becoming less common

People who quit smoking or never started are likely to enjoy a lifestyle free of chemotherapy treatment, provided that they live far from hospitals. However, people who live close to hospitals cannot claim that it would be inconvenient to travel a short distance for periodic chemotherapy treatments. Are they ready to pay the wages of health care workers who are no longer receiving an adequate supply of cancer patients? I don't think so. It would be quite easy to reintroduce polio germs into the environment. Could they manage without the help of vaccines developed by government researchers? It's unlikely. If they want to enjoy the health benefits provided by governments, then they should be realistic and accept that life includes not just the pleasant, but also the unpleasant. As a matter of fact, everybody agrees that chemotherapy treatment is unpleasant, so there's nothing controversial about this. Compulsory chemotherapy treatments will definitely help some people. People who believe that they are not being helped should recognize that they are fallible human beings and that they might be wrong. Compulsory chemotherapy treatment might actually be helping them too, regardless of what they think.

2. Nobody is talking about taking away freedom

If you are a qualified health care professional, then you will continue to be free to offer testing services for people who want a second opinion about whether or not they are suffering from cancer. However, it must be remembered that a second opinion is still just an opinion. Therefore, none of these second opinions can be given official recognition. People who live close to a hospital will be presumed to have cancer, regardless of any medical testing conducted. There is no significant risk of a government being mistaken about whether or not somebody lives near a hospital. However, medical examination of an individual patient always carries with it a risk of error, so medical examination results shouldn't be accepted as an excuse for an individual who lives near a hospital to evade his or her duty to undergo chemotherapy treatments.

3. This is a new application of ideas that have already stood the test of time

Teachers need jobs and if they're to keep their jobs, then they need an adequate stream of students. Health care workers need jobs and if they are to keep their jobs, then they need an adequate stream of patients. Students who live near a school are not eligible for correspondence courses. They are required to attend classes, just as people who live near a hospital should be required to attend chemotherapy treatment sessions. Refusing to permit students to attempt official tests for high school equivalency proves that they require education, just as refusing to permit official medical testing of people who live near hospitals would prove that they need chemotherapy treatment.

People who have high school equivalency credentials are prepared for remedial education, just as people who don't live near a hospital might have specific symptoms and might be prepare to seek customized diagnosis and treatment. People who don't have high school equivalency credentials aren't prepared for remedial education, but should be required to attend classes, just as people who live near a hospital aren't prepared for customized diagnosis and treatment, but should be required to undergo general chemotherapy treatment.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:26 PM
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1. What? n/t
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:34 PM
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5. Is it all equally unclear or is there some variation within the Original Post?
If there's some variation and you are optimistic, then we can begin with the parts that are least clear. If there's some variation and you aren't optimistic, then we can begin with the parts that are the clearest, but that still aren't clear enough.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:39 PM
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6. All equally unclear, please.
I agree with the kitty.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 11:16 PM
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23. I don't believe that it's all equally unclear to you.
Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 11:17 PM by Boojatta
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:32 PM
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2. I think I just had a seizure.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE -- link?

I want the husband to have a seizure too. LOL :)
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:45 PM
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8. Here's a link:
If you follow this link then you will learn that the proposal is modest. Therefore it isn't a drastic proposal.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:32 PM
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3. ...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:34 PM
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4. Am I still on your ignore list?
:rofl:
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:58 PM
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12. What are you laughing about?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 09:04 PM
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13. I love your posts. You make me laugh.
They are rather free flow thought process posts to me. You look at things differently than most people I know, put things together and come out with very interesting questions and comparisons.

I can use laughs. 2 more days.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:40 PM
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7. Has someone found the cure for cancer and I was not informed yet?
Or are you a health care worker concerned that there will be no more disease to deal with in the near and far term?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:46 PM
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9. I am very confuzzled...
What?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:59 PM
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10. What in the FUCK are you
talking about? Unless you perhaps forgot, say, the sarcasm thingie???

And health care workers had better start getting worried, because more and more people are forgoing medical treatment since they just don' have the money. Even those with insurance don't have it for copays, deductibles, out of pockets, etc., especially for major illnesses. And many don't want to bankrupt their families, especially older people.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:10 PM
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11. Whatever you're smoking, I think I'll pass. nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 09:10 PM
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14. Neither deep nor clever...
just ridiculous.

Sid
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:31 PM
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15. Not as ridiculous as passionate attachment to a ridiculous status quo.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 11:34 PM by Boojatta
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:33 PM
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16. We were JUST discussing this at dinner.
:crazy:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:57 PM
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17. .
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 12:00 AM by MilesColtrane
I will not take the bait. I will not take the bait. I will not take the bait.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:29 AM
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18. So if we save the forests...
...then the tree-cutters lose their jobs, right?

Okay, I think I got it.
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TKolmsi Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:23 PM
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19. So you are saying
online distance chemo is out of the question? Damn.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:47 PM
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20. What on earth are you wittering on about?

????
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:50 PM
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21. Don't worry about medicine.
I'm sure some they they'll invent a cure for your logorrhea.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:24 PM
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22. A lot of words are posted in GD.
I don't think that I post more than a very small fraction of the total.
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