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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 03:58 PM
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Greenpeace Surrenders To The Japanese Whaling Fleet
SEA SHEPHERD WILL OPPOSE JAPANESE WHALERS ALONE

Greenpeace has officially announced in a media release from Tokyo that they will not be sending a ship to the Southern Oceans to oppose whaling by the Japanese Whaling fleet. This means that the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society will be alone in its high seas opposition to illegal Japanese whaling operations when the whaling season opens in a month.


"As a Greenpeace co-founder, I am deeply offended that Greenpeace has been raising millions of dollars in the name of defending whales all year and now two weeks before the Japanese whaling fleet is scheduled to depart, they announce they will not be going," said Captain Paul Watson, Founder and President of Sea Shepherd. "In my opinion they collected funds under false pretenses and now they have abandoned the whales. Shame on them."


The Sea Shepherd ship Steve Irwin is scheduled to depart from Australia at the end of November on Sea Shepherd's fifth voyage to obstruct and intervene against outlaw pirate whaling activities in the Antarctic Southern Oceans Whale Sanctuary. Due to Sea Shepherd's interventions on its past campaigns, hundreds of whales have been saved in Antarctica.


Sea Shepherd's Executive Director Kim McCoy said, "Sea Shepherd will never retreat and we will never surrender until the outlaw whalers are driven out of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary for good."

Last week, Greenpeace Australia spokesperson Steve Shallhorn announced that Greenpeace would be sending a ship to Antarctic waters. The same day Japan announced that they would be sending a Japanese Coast Guard gunboat to defend the whaling fleet. It appears that the Japanese government has successfully frightened Greenpeace away this year.

"They can send the entire Japanese Navy down to the Southern Ocean if they like, but Sea Shepherd and the crew of the Steve Irwin will not be intimidated by this kind of brutal military thuggery. When we say we put our lives on the line to defend the whales, we mean it. It's not just a slogan for us," said Captain Watson. "I have not seen a whale die since I left Greenpeace in 1977 and I have no intention of seeing a whale die this year. They don't kill whales when we show up and they won't kill whales when we arrive again this year. They will have to sink us first."


http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=165320542&blogID=446235212


Whale Wars, Animal Planet Nov 7, 9 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMkTxrmVNs



Greenpeace 1977, Stops Soviet Whalers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5VaAPpzTzY


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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:18 PM
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1. The Japanese navy is probably more than willing to open fire on...
...the Steve Irwin. That's something that needs to be understood. Really understood. Since the Sea Shepherd does not arm itself this means that it's going to approach a Japanese fishing vessel and the Japanese gunboat is going to place itself between the two. If the Irwin approaches closer the Japanese gunboat is almost certain to open fire, disabling the ship or disabling the ship and killing or injuring Greenpeace sailors.

  And then they're out in the open ocean, crippled and drifting with injured or dying sailors. That doesn't sound like a strategy that pays off any way you look at it.

  By sending the ship Antarctic waters it can use the intimidation of its size and the dedication of its crew more effectively.

  Does it suck? Sure. But strategically, their move appears to be the most influential course of action given the situation.

PB
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM
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5. They'll likely be having a little problem with the Aussies if they do that
Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM by depakid
Not very wise, considering Austalia supplies them with many of the natural resources they lack to run their economy.

In fact, a sizeable majority of Aussies already support more aggressive action against the Japanese on illegal whaling (which is essentially piracy)- so talking action of the Steve Irwin would be a HUGE mistake.

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:31 PM
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7. If the Australians want to arm the Steve Irwin with Exocets and Greanpeace is cool with it...
...I can only give a thumbs up as they continue to disable the fishing vessels. But you don't bring (nothing at all) to a gunfight, which is basically what this boils down to.

PB
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:49 PM
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9. The Royal Navy likely deploy its ships to monitor the situation
Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 05:49 PM by depakid
in furtherance of their international lawsuit- but depending on what happens, it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that they would intercede. It wouldn't be the first time....

Navy fires on illegal fishing vessel

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/22/2011724.htm

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 06:08 PM
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10. Wow! Great tie-in story!
  I didn't realize how seriously they took matters- this is heartening news.

Thanks!

PB
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 06:27 PM
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14. GO GO GO Royal Navy!
Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 06:27 PM by crikkett
I know firsthand that they kick serious ass arse.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:58 AM
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16. It would be risky for the Japanese to sink an unarmed vessel. That would turn them into martyrs.
The last thing Japan wants is to make martyrs of the movement opposing whaling. That would play out on the international scene very badly for Japan in the end, I believe.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:19 PM
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2. sad
hope they find another (safe) way to keep up the fight
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:25 PM
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3. Great, so if humans can't protect wildlife from ourselves, where the F&*K is Aquaman already? (n/t)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:26 PM
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4. Huge damn shame. :( nt
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:30 PM
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6. Greenpeace are a bunch of sell-outs. In other breaking news, water is wet.
:shrug:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 06:10 PM
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11. Why do you say that? They are in my will.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 06:18 PM
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12. Thier actions on the whale campaign (when they bother) are pretty cowardly.
All they do is take pictures, they don't actually try to stop the whaling. And they sent some staffers to go eat some whale for a photo-op, I guess to show that they were culturally sensitive, but it just made them look like hypocrites, IMO.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0214-09.htm
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:35 PM
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8. why kill whales?
If you kill too many today, there will be none tomorrow.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 06:23 PM
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13. All this foofaraw
over an industry that would die in a week without major gov't subsidies. Japanese intransigence about this is so outsized to what they're protecting it's hard to understand.
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Brianfit Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:54 AM
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15. Surrenders? More like takes the game to the belly of the beast!
Brian from Greenpeace here.

Taking the fight to Tokyo isn't surrendering -- it's a tactical shift. Despite all the attention we get outside of Japan for challenging the whaling fleet in the Southern Ocean, those images and stories don't play in the media in the one place on Earth where they most matter: in Japan.

We've worked this issue from our office in Tokyo for years now, and last year we began to see a shift that we want to exploit now.

We've seen whaling discussed on the front page of Asahi Shinbum, defended by the prime minister, and criticized in the Japanese business press -- an unprecedented level of attention to whaling in Japan, where 70% of the public doesn't even know that whaling occurs in the Antarctic.

Whale meat eating is in decline, there are huge stockpiles of unsold meat, even Japanese scientists are now saying that the research value of killing so many wild animals is practically nil -- and so now is the time to raise questions in Japan about why taxpayers are funding this folly with subsidies of 400 million yen (around 4 million dollars), government-funded promotional programmes to get whale meat into schools, and tax-backed distribution schemes.

Japan has been rocked by corruption scandals that have brought down politician after politician. So when we looked for a way to take down the politicians who run the whaling problem, we looked for scandal stories to tell -- and we found one when we discovered the widespread embezzlement of whale meat and interecepted a box, one of four worth around 30,000 USD, that a crewmember had sent to a private address.

The biggest paper in Japan called for an investigation. The Tokyo public prosecutor agreed a full investigation was in order.

Instead, the government arrested two of our activists for "stealing" the box in a televised raid on the Greenpeace offices by 40 police who took membership records, computer disks, and files. Amnesty has denouced this as a politically motivate arrest, and our activists face TEN YEARS in prison. The over-reaction of the Japanese Government is perfect confirmation that we've hit a nerve, and we're on the right track, the scandal and corruption of how whaling lines only a few Bureaucrats' pockets in Japan is an Achilles' heel, and that this issue is moving in the pattern that Gandhi described: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

The end game will be in Japan, and that's where we've moved the game.

If you want more information, please have a look here:

http://www.greenpeace.org/end-game

If all we cared about were fundraising, we'd be going back to the Southern Ocean this year. As important as saving individual whales may be, this was a tough, strategic decision about putting our resources where we think they'll best be spent to win this issue once and for all.

--Brian
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